Breaking -- The human race has waived Josh Smith: 2014-15 regular season thread part 2

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their defense was really good last year with a much lesser role for him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

i mean bogut is the guy defensively

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link

but also they just play really good team D

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link

they were good but not the best

bogut is def the guy on D, but draymond is the klay to his steph

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

considering who else defenses have to deal with on GS thats borderline dont even bother to guard him territory

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:04 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

steph, klay, ___?

i mean he's not a first option but a floor-spacing big is rarely going to be the first option, kevin love style. and his shooting has improved over the course of the season, and there's no reason to think he can't work on it and be a good 3pt shooter

another interesting GSW storyline is how klay'so fallen off a cliff for the second straight spring

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link

D12 returns tonight apparently

head clowning instructor (art), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

his shooting has improved over the course of the season

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its been fairly consistent fwiw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

started out way hot then semi-slumped then back up to normal. He shoots just good enough to keep defenses honest. HIs best asset on offense is pushing the ball up.

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

obvs its a pretty complex calculation but i might in my role as imaginary nba coach leave him open from deep

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

dirk has been hobbling around all year and not playing very well generally i wldnt get to excited abt the job dray did, unless u have some reason to think he cldve accomplished that few years ago

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

yeah dirk old for sure but theres no reason that matchup would fair better for dirk if they met in the playoffs

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

greg monroe is the only player I've seen truly own him in the post, consistently anyway

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

there at least as much reason to think it wld than it wldnt prob more xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

i am with you about draymond but we've probably already had this convo four times this year.

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

it is one of my great weakness that overrated players enrage me and i cant let go

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

omg u r such a h8r

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

h8 is good it fuels me

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

he's v important to the warriors successes so in this system he's not overrated

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

it is one of my great weakness that overrated players enrage me and i cant let go

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just wish you'd be this skeptical of kevin love

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

dray pre/post ASB btw .432/.330/.683 & .467/.368/.631

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

the love situation is different, it's the opposite actually, it's very clear love is good enough to be a stud. love's struggles this year can better be ascribed to the lebron effect/not being used right

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah but if u look at his monthly splits its all over the place, looks p much just like the variance youd expect from a 34% 3pt shooter xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

all thats stuff from love's mike and mike interview was v sad

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link

whatd he say

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link

said westbrook is the mvp...
said him and lebro aren't really friends...

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

@nbcprobballtalk
Larry Bird on Russell Westbrook: “I hope he wins 10 MVPs in a row” http://wp.me/p14QT0-35Io

ha bird is p cool

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

its true he's definitely being used wrong and can't be a 3rd/2nd banana but i don't know where he'd be suited for a 1st banana role honestly (which has to do with team situations, not necessarily his abilities)

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

talking to mike and mike would make me sad tbf

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

its true he's definitely being used wrong and can't be a 3rd/2nd banana but i don't know where he'd be suited for a 1st banana role honestly (which has to do with team situations, not necessarily his abilities)

― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:15 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

boston celtics

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

(*prepares to eat metric tons of crow if k-love comes to the celtics and is massively successful, simultaneously does not really see it happening *)

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

i mean the celtics dont necessarily have the right pieces to put around him right now but with all their assets theyre prob the team in the best position to remake their roster through trades, also coach brad has already proven himself ingenious at carving out just the right roles for players, which seems like a quality that might be especially aprecited by kevin love at the moment

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link

also its is loves destiny to play in boston

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link

i could see there being a playoff game tho where they lose because dray shoots 1-8 on threes

Anyone can go 1-8 on threes, even Steph. But one of the things I like about Draymond is that he isn't doesn't have that irrational confidence thing where he falls in love with his shot even when it isn't working.

Anyway, if we lose because the Warriors passed the ball a bunch and Draymond wound up bricking some open looks, I will take that in a heartbeat over Jordan Crawford running iso, shooting off-balance twos.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

jordan crawfod

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

i dont think the warriors will lose, like theyve been the best offensive team and the best defensive team all year but no one wants to say they are heavy favorites

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

a cool factoid if they win this year is they have a first year coach and zero players with rings

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Their coach has a few though. :)

polyphonic, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

tru

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

no one wants to say they are heavy favorites

think this largely stems from how stacked the west is, but i fear a not insignificant of the reasoning behind it is like status quo NBA thinking - they are historically maligned & certain ijits are almost angered (anger isn't the perfect word per se) to see them break out of the mediocrity box they were once safely ensconced in

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link

*not insignificant part

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

you know whos been playing really well recently iggy got to think hes gonna take a bunch of barnes minutes come playoffs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

yeah big time. kerr's also figured out how to use livingston

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

barnes has made a near 10% jump in fg% over last season

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

helps to shoot open shots and not iso turnaround J's

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah barnes is doing better and he def has a much better role than last year but iggy when hes on is just such a more dynamic player

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

tried to check when the last time a team finished the season first in offensive and defensive efficiency and espn only goes back to 03-04 and it didnt happen over that period

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

crazy to see those numbers drop as i traveled back through time btw offenses are so much better now!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link


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