Breaking -- The human race has waived Josh Smith: 2014-15 regular season thread part 2

theres really no way his defense isnt wildly overrated at this point too, i mean he fits perfectly into GS system seeing as he can switch a lot and guard multiple positions, he has bogut and great rotations behind him so he can afford to get under bigger players, but the dray green hype is wildly out of control rn, if you put him on a poor defensive team w a non rim protecting center i dont think he wld move the needle much

there are very few big men who routinely shoot contested three pointers, that's sort of the whole function of using a big to stretch the floor

will be v interesting to see what the warriors do if they face memphis considering hes undersized to guard either of their front court dudes and memphis is a good enough defensive team they cld prob force non splash bros to attempt shots theyre not used to making

yeah but his % is not very good on those shots is the whole point xp

i dunno man his one-on-one post defense is pretty awesome

like u cant stretch the floor if no one bothers to guard u

i think golden state is a bad match up for memphis

wld be an intersting battle of contrasting styles

i dunno man his one-on-one post defense is pretty awesome

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a small part of D in todays nba, and i suspect a good bigger post player wld find ways to take advantage of him with playoff preperation

yeah it's not a huge thing but i dunno have you seen him guard dirk? he can't drive past him or post him up. i mean dirk is ancient so whatever but draymond's versatility seems pretty real to me.

like i think if he played one-on-one vs a lot of wings and bigs in the NBA they wouldn't be able to score

i mean dray is a cool player and all dont get me wrong, but hes just a role player who fits really well w the dubs line up and what they do and they are having a classic season mostly because of players better than him

Think the praise has to be at least somewhat warranted seeing as their defense didn't slip while Bogut was out.

yeah it's not a huge thing but i dunno have you seen him guard dirk? he can't drive past him or post him up. i mean dirk is ancient so whatever but draymond's versatility seems pretty real to me.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:17 AM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its too bad this isnt the first round matchup, i mean obvs the mavs wld get destroyed but wld like to see dirk go at dray, one thing is the mavs havent been using dirk in the high post that much this year one wld assume to save his body for the playoffs, but if hes at all physically right and they just go to him at his elbow spot cant see how he doesnt just shoot over dray every time, granted if his mobility is bad and he cant really drive off the overplay that makes things a lil more difficult but still

Think the praise has to be at least somewhat warranted seeing as their defense didn't slip while Bogut was out.

― tsrobodo, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:18 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it slipped a lot!

Idunno heard Stein say different and I'm inclined to agree. they went 10 - 3 and gave up over 100 points in less than half those games

hey are having a classic season mostly because of players better than him

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:18 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is true offensively but not defensively

their defense was really good last year with a much lesser role for him

i mean bogut is the guy defensively

but also they just play really good team D

they were good but not the best

bogut is def the guy on D, but draymond is the klay to his steph

considering who else defenses have to deal with on GS thats borderline dont even bother to guard him territory

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:04 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

steph, klay, ___?

i mean he's not a first option but a floor-spacing big is rarely going to be the first option, kevin love style. and his shooting has improved over the course of the season, and there's no reason to think he can't work on it and be a good 3pt shooter

another interesting GSW storyline is how klay'so fallen off a cliff for the second straight spring

D12 returns tonight apparently

his shooting has improved over the course of the season

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its been fairly consistent fwiw

started out way hot then semi-slumped then back up to normal. He shoots just good enough to keep defenses honest. HIs best asset on offense is pushing the ball up.

re Draymond vs Dirk. he owned dirk so hard when they played last.
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obvs its a pretty complex calculation but i might in my role as imaginary nba coach leave him open from deep

dirk has been hobbling around all year and not playing very well generally i wldnt get to excited abt the job dray did, unless u have some reason to think he cldve accomplished that few years ago

yeah dirk old for sure but theres no reason that matchup would fair better for dirk if they met in the playoffs

greg monroe is the only player I've seen truly own him in the post, consistently anyway

there at least as much reason to think it wld than it wldnt prob more xp

i am with you about draymond but we've probably already had this convo four times this year.

it is one of my great weakness that overrated players enrage me and i cant let go

omg u r such a h8r

h8 is good it fuels me

he's v important to the warriors successes so in this system he's not overrated

it is one of my great weakness that overrated players enrage me and i cant let go

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just wish you'd be this skeptical of kevin love

dray pre/post ASB btw .432/.330/.683 & .467/.368/.631

the love situation is different, it's the opposite actually, it's very clear love is good enough to be a stud. love's struggles this year can better be ascribed to the lebron effect/not being used right

yeah but if u look at his monthly splits its all over the place, looks p much just like the variance youd expect from a 34% 3pt shooter xp

all thats stuff from love's mike and mike interview was v sad

whatd he say

said westbrook is the mvp...
said him and lebro aren't really friends...

@nbcprobballtalk
Larry Bird on Russell Westbrook: “I hope he wins 10 MVPs in a row” http://wp.me/p14QT0-35Io

ha bird is p cool

its true he's definitely being used wrong and can't be a 3rd/2nd banana but i don't know where he'd be suited for a 1st banana role honestly (which has to do with team situations, not necessarily his abilities)

talking to mike and mike would make me sad tbf

yeah

its true he's definitely being used wrong and can't be a 3rd/2nd banana but i don't know where he'd be suited for a 1st banana role honestly (which has to do with team situations, not necessarily his abilities)

― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:15 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

boston celtics

(*prepares to eat metric tons of crow if k-love comes to the celtics and is massively successful, simultaneously does not really see it happening *)

i mean the celtics dont necessarily have the right pieces to put around him right now but with all their assets theyre prob the team in the best position to remake their roster through trades, also coach brad has already proven himself ingenious at carving out just the right roles for players, which seems like a quality that might be especially aprecited by kevin love at the moment