glasper in your copyrights
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
"I didn't notice it sounded like 'Pyramid Song' until someone else pointed it out" is protesting too much?
― DJP, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
How Much a Dollar Cost sounds extremely like Pyramid Song, and of course it could be a common ancestor, but this is a record with a song sampling Sufjan Stevens, so I don't think it's weird to think they might be referencing Radiohead as well.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
this is hilarious
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
saddest part is Thom's jazz influence seemed to start with 'Rabbit in Your Headlights'
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
wtf happened to this thread
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
my students and i both love this album; it happens rarely, but it's sweet when it does.
its like me and DJP lol
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
at least with regards to rap music
who is the student and who is the teacher, though?
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
i assumed he was the teacher in this dynamic
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
who will give whom the bigger surprise?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
Am I the only one that hears "That's All" by Genesis at the beginning of Hood Politics? It's almost like they originally had a sample there but decided to change up the melody a bit and play it live to facilitate the vibe
― MrExplorer, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 07:02 (nine years ago) link
are you guys really comparing this record to Amnesiac?
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:22 (nine years ago) link
um, no?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link
just for laughs, to kid a butterfly
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link
jazz musicians stealing from british rock musicians? go ahead and laugh. i was laughing too, until i discoveredhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Mother_Nature
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:22 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
Bold statement coming from the Dress Comparer
― 龜, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
So what do we make of the fact that both of the rappers on top right now, Kendrick and Kanye, are explicitly Christian rappers - from Jesus Walks to Yeezus and Kendrick's two albums - while in the nineties most of the rap that mattered (Wu, for instance) was informed by Islam? There's a thesis in here somewhere. Has anyone ever written anything worthwhile about this apparent shift?
― longneck, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
* two major label albums
longneck reaching really hard, usually you need THREE examples to start a thinkpiece
there were def more prominent muslim rap stars in the 90s (who's the biggest now? Lupe?) but I dunno if it was remotely a majority
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
was Pac xian? he loved the symbolism at least
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
longneck's theory kind of ignores the Jewish elephant in the room anyway
― Number None, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
? what does that have to do with anything
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Drake & Paul Barman?
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
feel like the NOI lost currency because Farrakhan is a jerk/never delivered
I mean if you say "both of the rappers on top right now" and aren't referring to Drake it seems willful
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
also willful to ignore Scientologists Will Smith and Doug E. Fresh
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
doug e??? noooooooooo :(
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
Eh, Everyone from Big Daddy Kane and Rakim to Wu, Nas, Jay, most of Roc-a-Fella, Common and Brand Nubian were somehow influenced by the five percent nation. It's deeply entrenched in the very notion of a golden age. These days we get two christians and a jew. I'm not writing the thinkpiece but it's obviously interesting in some way.
― longneck, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
two christians and a jew
this was a 90s sitcom on ABC, right
― DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
it should have been!
― longneck, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
starring Craig T. Nelson, Tom Wopat, and Joan Collins.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
94792978387619816th discussion of the biggest rappers around in 2015 and no one even thinks of mentioning nicki
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
check out Brother Ali's twitter to find out what Muslim rappers are talking about these days (hint: Islamic world is too shitty at video production for Isis to be real)
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, THREE christians and a jew!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/nicki-minaj-thanks-jesus-for-painful-split-in-tearful-interview-talks-perils-of-fame-131405/
― longneck, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
setting aside who deserves to be in the "biggest" cadre, safe to say none of them are Muslims/5 percenters
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
you can say 'both of the rappers on top right now' and plausibly not mean Nicki is either of them (3 rappers have outsold her or are on pace to outsell her just in the past 4 months) but not so with Drake
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
her album flopped :-/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
he has a trio with Chris Dave, who is like the most influential contemporary drummer and is the go-to guy for D'Angelo, Maxwell, Badu, etc.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've always viewed Karriem Riggins in this regard, but at the same time it never feels too much like they're occupying the same space.
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
agreed. i love Karriem Riggins, he's an amazing drummer and produces for Badu/Common/etc too, but Chris Dave inspired hundreds of junior Chris Daves who take cues from his sound, approach, and techniques. not to take anything away from KR, but i don't think he has the same kind of stature in the drum world.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't say it flopped but Pinkprint wasn't what it was built up to be either
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
xpYeah Dave is definitely more of a technician/innovator and I've heard a numerous people rave about him but I guess Riggins has been more central to my listening experience.
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
kanye is making a farrakhan documentary
― nose, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
just wanted to say that Ramsey Lewis album is surprisingly really good
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I agree! I actually learned about it from whichever ilxor put 'Julia' on the Spotify playlist. found it used for cheap at the local record store as well.
― Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
― nose, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that should go well
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Starring Chaka Khan as Farrakhan
― DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
and Vince Vaughn as Kublai Khan
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Kim Kardashian as Kahn
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link