Fox News Hosts - Who is the worst?

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that seems like a 'sane adult in the presence of a sociopath' problem and not necessarily a political one

laying | (goole), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

ok glenn beck just put on a pair of blue latex gloves and said "this is the dumbest damn show on air!" then he wrapped up a dead fish in newspaper w/pictures of obama & other newsmakers on it, while doing some goofy voices about how.. i dunno, this is what we're giving the taxpayers

epic

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Clearly the new business model at FOX is "look at all the crazy people we bring you, how can you NOT watch us?!" Even more now than in recent years. They aren't being as overtly partisan anymore, instead they're just piping hallucinogens in through the a/c in the studios.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol quite possibly

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if they were counting on the spectacle to pay the bills.

Mordy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

How could it not be Hannity? I see RED at a mere glimpse of his taut, smug assface, looking at you with a supercilious grin that says: I am 100% douchebag and, even though I misconstrue or disregard even the simplest of facts, I am somehow massively influential. It doesn't help that my mom likes him. People say this suggest this kind of thing figuratively, but I literally would not mind watching him being tortured to death.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Glenn Beck's show is like a weird high-concept homage to The Colbert Report, no lie.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been loling all week at his fear-mongering over Obama's sinister designs of socialist-fascism.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Schadenfreude for these windbags comes all too easily. There's really no sport in picking out all of the factual inconsistencies of their O_o rants, but the socialist/fascist thing demonstrates that they lack even the simplest understanding of political science.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

The other day Geraldo referred to Hillary as "First Lady Hillary Clinton" re: her State Dept. visit to Mexico. I didn't watch long enough to see if it was intentional, but it wouldn't surprise me.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, i think shep is kind of insane, there is def nobody else like him - somehow i find him snarking about dumb celebrity news stories & being sort of rude to people is still funny and appealing, whereas i cannot stand to watch 0lbermann at all. still LOLing over the fox & friends clip where kilmeade is finally like "OK have you ever felt more awkward on a set???" FTW

oh, also - bret baier is the dude at 6pm who took over for brit hume, not included in the poll, but he might be a robot.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

geraldo is harmless IMHO

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

the socialist/fascist thing demonstrates that they lack even the simplest understanding of political science

I wouldn't mind the channel's political leanings if they actually had conservative hosts on there who were intellectually thorough with their positions and how they crafted the themes of the shows. Instead, they're all just shallow, knee-jerk egotists who play to base fears. (This goes for Lou Dobbs on CNN and Olbermann on MSNBC, too.)

Why can't every host on a political forum show be more like Rachel Maddow, huh?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't call Maddow an intellectual, just well-prepared.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I get the feeling with Maddow that if her bosses would let her she'd spend an hour each night getting down to the nuts and bolts of how this or that is done in Washington and why. Nerd television doesn't get viewers, though.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, god, lou dobbs. that guy really does make me angry. the xenophobic fearmongering.. i can't believe CNN puts that on the air. same for nancy grace who strikes me as particularly.. undemocratic and unamerican, basically, who cares about the law when she can just decide for herself that every suspect is guilty & then make tons of money leading the witch hunt herself. i despise that woman.

i shouldn't be rude about bret baier though, he is pretty straightforward and his show isn't actually about him and his personality instead of the news itself, which is a good thing.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

This is what you have in mind (and I agree it's riveting TV, even for non-nerds):

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i cannot get over the shep/gretchen carlson clip that J0rdan posted upthread. shep is awful!

at the end after he's made everyone completely uncomfortable, kilmeade takes one last shot at making nice & says "isn't this like regis and kathy lee?" and shep says "isn't this like that offline after the show show you did with that guy who wasn't funny?" doocy: "how unfunny was that?" shep: "that was stupid, i should never let him back in here again, or me, for that matter." kilmeade and doocy are basically stunned at this point, and kilmeade wraps it up by mentioning whatever internet venture shep was there to talk about - "he can't wait, and.. he doesn't watch us." because of course shep told them that he doesn't even watch their show.

sorry to go on, but IMHO insulting people to their faces is def an art form & i am learning something here. i almost feel bad for doocy/kilmeade/carlson but i have seen enough of that show that.. not really.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah higher ups at fox shouldn't have let those three get railroaded like that, but still lols 4 lyfe

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

this is fascinating. clearly shep doesn't take o'reilly's word for it, and raises point after point where o'reilly's story on how jackson's comments got out, doesn't add up. he's very precise about it. you don't see this kind of interview much any more, sadly, but it's so interesting that he's skeptical about every single part of the story & extra skeptical when o'reilly tries to be flattering. wow, actual journalism on cable news.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess shep is allowed to insult anyone he wants :) thing is, i have seen enough segments from "fox & friends" to know that.. they're really irresponsible, as if being a lighthearted & painfully bright and cheerful morning show makes it OK to play fast and loose with the facts & put a right wing spin on most everything.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the o'reilly interview here, though, if i did broadcast journalism i'd be taking notes. you know how touchy/angry/defensive o'reilly gets when questioned & here he basically gets interrogated about this but it's done so carefully he really has no way to get out of it. o'reilly ends up looking pretty bad IMHO.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

If FOX News didn't exist, I find it hard to believe Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson could find a job anywhere. They're completely useless in every capacity. Kilmeade is almost in the same boat, but occasionally redeems himself by doing something that's actually funny (and not just funny by mistake).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

johnny otm

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

oh shit...i just fucking realized that that's GRETCHEN CARLSON from MN who was Ms America holy crap, i forgot she even existed, but damn everyone acted like it was such a big deal when she won.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I get the feeling with Gretchen that she doesn't always have a clear grasp of the subtleties of Fox News (or Republican) talking points. So she'll just get the basic thrust (we don't like liberals) and then take them to some extreme, like - and I don't remember the specific words but - talking trash about Ted Kennedy being an enemy combatant and the White House representative at the time being like, "Well, we don't like him. But no, he's not actually a terrorist." Like she's kinda unclear about the distinction. I think it's kinda cute. Like the uncool/slower kid running with the ball with lots of enthusiasm, even if they don't really understand the sport.

Mordy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

comparing gretchen carlson to a retard is an apt comparison i think yeah

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"one civil rights leader disparaging another civil rights leader", lol

710 east green in bensenville near o'hare (omar little), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

carlson never met a right wing talking point she didn't leave unchallenged..

in the clip i posted above, bill o'reilly going on and on and on about the rules of journalism and journalism 101, makes it completely obvious he's just making excuses. at the end of the day fox does depend on being a news organization, not an opinion organization - I get the sense with this interview that this is what happens when one of the opinion shows decides they are going to break big stories like they're journalists. roger ailes has to step in with official statements & bill o has to go on somebody else's show and answer questions.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember doocy from a puffy fluffy local morning show (might have been a fox affiliate) about 10-15 yrs ago, pastel sweater/white keds type of thing, him weighing in on politics in any capacity still blows my mind

tremendoid, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

doocy clearly has no idea what he's talking about, and the lady who's like "oooh, scary" has even less of a clue

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Thermo, I don't know that most of America has even heard of this guy

i suspected as much. hence me calling him a nobody.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

GEORGE CHANDLER
HAD NAIL IN HIS HEAD

! (Clay), Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

My love for Shep knows no bounds.

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, plus 1 for Hannity. How could such an unintelligent person get a national platform? I love Hitchen's takedown of him

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

robert gibbs' pwning was pretty epic

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember doocy from a puffy fluffy local morning show (might have been a fox affiliate) about 10-15 yrs ago, pastel sweater/white keds type of thing, him weighing in on politics in any capacity still blows my mind

I remember when he hosted kids' shows!!

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the tv announcer game is darker and uglier than anything

laying | (goole), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

they're not really actors or journalists or experts, it's just this thing... really fucked up frankly

laying | (goole), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Gibbs vs. Fox and Friends was also epic

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish Gibbs was still that pointed now, but its understandable for a White House press secretary to have to play nice.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

XD XD @ "the news is so WEIRD lately"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm a little surprised by the (relative) praise for o'reilly on this thread. i mean, everything that i have seen and heard about him indicates that, besides his assholish political views, he's also a first-class douchebag and close to being a sociopath. i mean, this is a guy who has sent his followers to stalk people who diss him in some way. i don't care whether or not his (repugnant) views are thought-out or occasionally reasonable, i find that sort of conduct unacceptable.

that said, i voted for hannity.

LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Thursday, 26 March 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

O'Reilly is an A+ boob, but I think it's a learned behavior that took over FOX during the Bush administration. I watched an old clip of him from 2001 on The Daily Show and he seemed entirely reasonable and non-detestable.

Sure he's probably an asshole in real life, or at least impatient and short-tempered (based on the Inside Edition outtake), and definitely creepy and horny (intern sex scandal)...

...yeah, I really can't defend him.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

aight i'll defend him

for one tons of ppl are dicks irl, i think that's a slippery slope. but i really turned the corner on o reilly when he had been calling for obama to sit down with him, obama did, and o reilly left the interview talking about how he was impresses w/ obama even tho he didn't agree with him, and that he appreciated having a conversation w/ him etc. also, if you watch his show day in and out (guilty as charged) you see that he's not even on hannity's level of conservative fear baiting and racism and pure hatred. i mean he has dumb opinions for sure (thinks the internet is ruining the world) and gets his nose into business that he shouldn't (jamie spears thing is a good example) but i think he really thinks that he's providing an open forum for discussion. i go back to the infamous cam'ron thing. in hannity's case he would've brought the dude onto his set and blindsided him. o reilly set up the thing as a discussion b/w cam and an elementary school principle, and it only turned ugly once cam and dame started clowning o reilly for being a corny white dude

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link


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