Primer

What was the deal with the last scene and the French translator guy?

One of the Aarons - either 1, 2, or 3 is apparently building an airplane hangar-sized version of the time machine.

Finally got around to watching this and loved it a lot.

Why is there a bow on the refrigerator? What's up with the rats in the attic? Who is Rachel and why do we give a shit if her boyfriend is trying to shoot her?

So tempted to start answering year-old questions, but the number of exhaustive internet sites tackling this job makes it a particular waste.

Not that a lot of talk gets put into this, usually, but: I think the fact that people can do exhaustive plot-tackling with this film says really great things about the non-plot aspects of it -- I don't know that I've read many people talking about light or mood or sound in this thing (since they're obviously overshadowed), but they're all pretty great, I think

Ouch. My head hurts.

It's very simple:

http://deckardpl.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/primer_timeline.jpg

blatant bragging 2009 but i didn't find this too hard to follow

everything after the big shootout in the whorehouse is a fantasy, and once you realise that it's simple.

The last 15 minutes are a trial, because the director didn't establish many cues as to which timeline was being followed. It really could have captured more viewers with costume designers cued into the plot, and a few more establishing shots for time-contiguous sections. I don't expect to be spoon fed, but any movie that is incomprehensible after 1 pint is pushing it.

It succeeded marvelously in capturing the geeky excitement of places like Hewlett and Packards garage.

I get it now. But I watched it twice in one afternoon. Rats in the attic, indeed.

Brilliant, btw.

Funny true story: So I'm watching this for the second time on my computer, and at one point I pause to check email on a different virtual desktop, and then I absently double click on the icon and restart a second copy of the movie, which made me chuckle. Then I went to the playlist, and it listed "Primer," "Primer (1)," and "Primer (2)," and I realized that I had yet a third copy of the movie, the one I watched the first time, paused on yet another virtual desktop.

And then I started bleeding from the ear.

timecrimes wz better

lol

yessss timecrimes! gets points for laffs.

Please do me a favor and take this scurvy

whats everybody talking about

I watched Timecrimes and then Spider Forest (Korean film) and thought I was going a bit mad.

timecrimes is the baby version of primer

aww no need to take sides

http://realdupont.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/470who-needs-training-wheels.jpg

she loves timecrimes

primer is the autistic nerd version of timecrimes

Ouch. My head hurts.

― krakow, Monday, November 23, 2009 1:05 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark

One reviewer said that "anybody who claims to fully understand what's going on in Primer after seeing it just once is either a savant or a liar."

Phew.

From Wiki.

A Topiary is the upcoming American science fiction drama film by Shane Carruth, a mathematician and a former engineer, known for his previous film Primer.

After Primer, Shane Carruth started working on his second film. In 2009, David Sullivan, one of the leads in Primer, claimed on his Twitter that "Shane Carruth's next project, A Topiary, is in the early stages of pre-production." He also stated he would have a part in this film, to what degree is unknown. Filmmaker Rian Johnson also posted: "Shane... has a mind-blowing sci-fi script. Let's all pray to the movie-gods that he gets it made soon."[1] In 2010, several news sources reported that A Topiary is in the works, and that the script is written. According to Carruth in an interview to io9, "The website for now is just a place mark as financing has yet to be completed. I'm cautiously optimistic that this can happen soon and couldn't be happier with the filmmakers that have committed to the project so far.

In the movie's prologue, it's the 1980's, and Department of Transportation worker Acre Stowe has been trying to find the perfect spot for a first response center which can quickly and easily get to the location which has the most accidents in the area. But while looking, he starts noticing a mysterious pattern repeatedly showing up all over, and even in the form of starbursts. Soon along with a friend, he gets involved with a group of scientists who investigate this phenomenon for several years until finally hitting a dead end.

After this apparent precursor, a new story starts about a group of boys aged 7-12 who somehow are in possession of a mysterious box they call the "Maker" which allows them to create strange disks and other devices which have various properties, until they discover a way to create sentient creatures with the Maker. They call these "Choruses" and use them for various friendly battles. However, soon after mysterious incidents involving the mechanical beings start to occur, the boys begin to realize that they may have seriously underestimated the powers of the Maker and the Choruses, and more importantly, the ever-growing splinter in their group.

Excited!

sounds v similar to primer tho, but will watch out for this alright

Nice. Was there a Philip K. Dick short story that sounds a little like the 'Maker' thing?

I have finally seen this film. I liked it. I am now working on ways of making an army of duplicates of myself using their machine.

but at what cost re: gentrification

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/first-look-shane-carruths-new-sundance-2013-film-upstream-color/

First Look: Shane Carruth's New Film Upstream Color

"A man and woman are drawn together, entangled in the life cycle of an ageless organism. Identity becomes an illusion as they struggle to assemble the loose fragments of wrecked lives." ... the title "upstream color" might be referring to "an esoteric biopharmeceutical term that describes impurities present early in the processing/manufacture of a chemical."

EEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeee

Sad that he's dumbed down and sold out.

At first glance I like the premise of 'A Topiary' better, wonder why it was parked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdYO3KWmcv8

please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9KmAlrEXU

Just rewatched Primer for the first time since '04. I followed more of it this time, but I still lost it somewhere in the last 15 minutes. The trailer for the new one looks worryingly Malick-like, but I'm hoping it's not as po-faced as advertised.

a malick-like sci-fi thriller is sorta like my platonic ideal of a movie.

just saw primer a few days ago for first time. i was really impressed.

It's really pretty great. I was surprised how much I liked it on a revisit. And fwiw, Soderbergh likes the new one:

Are there young filmmakers you’re excited about?

Shane Carruth. He did the film Primer, and he’s got a terrific new movie at Sundance.

a malick-like sci-fi thriller is sorta like my platonic ideal of a movie.

― ryan, Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:15 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd love a Malick horror film.

Interpretation options abound.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3217z2mr2WH3bnlYpJxlGJO08wrUCvjjGb-f2j0tPKm5dkeA6 or http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/PrimerTimeline.gif or http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/1403/248887-primer_timeline.jpg or http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/5/169429/2304580/primer_o.jpg or http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z108/btbrian14/PrimerTimeline.jpg.

last one approximates my experience but i rolled with it.

I'd love a Malick horror film.

"Tree of DEATH"
"Days of HELL"
"Badlands"

just did a primer rewatch as well. it's really hard for me to deal w/primer objectively because i respect the filmmaking so much but carruth himself called it a tone poem and that's probably the right way to treat it.

if you grew up in texas it is a great summer kind of movie

among the million reasons i respect the filmmaking, an excellent sense of place is one of them

oh, I've got time for this movie. it's got so much dallas/houston in it... bright, blown out, no shadows, empty hallways and office parks, grassy nowheres, roads always in the background, fever dreams of august or september. and the escalating hostility and paranoia that never comes to a head. oh yes.

a labyrinth of open spaces

totally otm. i didnt know it was set in texas the first time i saw it but immediately was able to identify the setting.

I think "Primer" makes perfect sense, but only for a few minutes, until you forget why it made perfect sense. (See also: aforementioned elaborate flowchart)

Anyone seen the new one yet? Upstream Colour? Sounds good. Carruth seems pretty damn serious about being an actual bona fide autuer in terms of doing EVERYTHING himself.

More than auteur - he's even distributing it himself!

Bloody hell.