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i like beer but i do not LOVE beer toqué is paid for by work so $$$$ not an issue + it seems like a place to at least try - or is it really not worth it?

also any word on garde manager? mostly looking for places that serve something i cant eat in nyc which is why im into places that focus on locally-sourced stuff which is why my big must is apcd so... maybe more stuff like that? also breakfast places would be good

― Lamp, Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok def check toqué if you can afford it! def.

garde-manger i wouldn't recommend, more of a scene place than a food place imo. but APDC = def. joe beef/liverpool = def. hmm what else... maybe salle à manger?

s1ocki, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:43 (ten years ago) link

club de chasse et peche def worth checking out.

for brunch try my friends' new place, sparrow, or have the brunch at lemeac which is fantastic. dinner there is great too.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:44 (ten years ago) link

Oh man I cannot wait to go to The Sparrow. I know I'm going to love it because it fills a big Sparrow-shaped gap in Montreal's food scene. A big, depressing gap. Next step: maybe some enterprising or foolish soul will make the connection between batter, fish, and hot oil and then, you know, try selling it to people. Sigh.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Thursday, 26 March 2009 20:41 (ten years ago) link

Do they have a liquor license? I'm actually so excited that I'm thinking of printing out their menus from the Facebook group so I can carry them around with me and glance at them longingly.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Thursday, 26 March 2009 20:42 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Hello good peoples. Will be in your city June 19th to 21st, eating your bagels.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 21:32 (nine years ago) link

heh.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 3 May 2010 21:39 (nine years ago) link

And I'll be in Toronto a couple of days before that but that's another thread to revive.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 21:42 (nine years ago) link

cool!!

and in also cool news:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Plateau+close+streets/2982434/story.html#ixzz0n3oNVWbp

sir gaga (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:17 (nine years ago) link

(that first one is a few blocks from my house)

sir gaga (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:18 (nine years ago) link

I live on that first one, albeit several blocks south, where people basically barrel down it at 100km/h because they're just looking for parking on St-Laurent or whatever. Pedestrianize our street too!

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:41 (nine years ago) link

That's damn cool news indeed!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:02 (nine years ago) link

I miss you deeply, my beloved Sin City.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:22 (nine years ago) link

my girlfriend lives on st dominique woohoo!

ayo for dyao (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:56 (nine years ago) link

So anyway, FAP etc.? Maybe some relaxed Sunday afternoon thing?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:10 (nine years ago) link

Show some love. I've got new shoes.

fields of salmon, Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:57 (nine years ago) link

At Footlocker.

fields of salmon, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:00 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Thirty minutes and counting down.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:39 (nine years ago) link

welcome to my city ned raggett.

hey whatsup (marc iv), Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:20 (nine years ago) link

just went to TO and I am so fucking glad to be back in MTL.

Simon H., Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:30 (nine years ago) link

biked 35 miles around the East Island today. The Quebecoise are indeed a 'distinct society'. Love my city.

sofatruck, Monday, 21 June 2010 01:49 (nine years ago) link

Xpost: rather than give you a snark filled piece of mind, I'll just link to this

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Monday, 21 June 2010 01:57 (nine years ago) link

I dunno, me and TO just do not jibe, mostly seems to be a people issue. but then again I might feel the same way as you had I spent the last six+ years in TO instead.

Simon H., Monday, 21 June 2010 02:30 (nine years ago) link

> biked 35 miles around the East Island today. The Quebecoise are indeed a 'distinct society'. Love my city.

would you mind telling me where this East Island is, cause I've never heard of it in my 30-someodd years here. "The Quebecoise?"

Charlesburg, Monday, 21 June 2010 03:05 (nine years ago) link

East Montreal... semantics. Sorry for the typo.

sofatruck, Monday, 21 June 2010 04:28 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/magnificent-montreal/1

good article that sort of sums up nicely what i <3 about this town

my friend is the guy leading the writer around

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:36 (nine years ago) link

haha. yeah it's a great piece. but i want to know more about adam sachs, not adam gollner! :)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:39 (nine years ago) link

what do you want to know

(i dont know anything)

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Can I move there? Do they like foreign people?

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:51 (nine years ago) link

yes and yes

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Spent a week in Montreal (and three days in Quebec City) for our honeymoon. Such a great place.

da croupier, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:01 (nine years ago) link

nice, what did u do?

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:05 (nine years ago) link

I dunno, Canadian immigration people have always been the biggest hardasses to me. Sometimes I fly home with Air Canada and have a layover in Toronto and always get GRILLED. Why am I here? Well, I have a flight to catch and will be leaving in 45 minutes, so I don't really think I'm a danger to your country.

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:08 (nine years ago) link

It is a VERY great place, and I only really spent something like a day and a half there. Everyone should visit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:08 (nine years ago) link

well maybe I think you're a danger to my country adam

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Well I am a bit messy sometimes.

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Still, I like the idea of living in Canada. You never know.

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:10 (nine years ago) link

You have to watch out for him, he likes to film things. (Wait, who am I warning against who?)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Stayed at one of those boutique hotels by the water (one with awesome fucking room service), went to a ton of restaurants, bought a ton of records, hit that Miles Davis exhibit at the art museum, saw some sights and witnessed some of the glory that was Canada Day and the boiling heat wave that followed (if it had been any other type of vacation I would have dropped you a line, Slock). Don't recognize most of the places in that article but oddly enough I ordered all three things (foie gras poutine, duck-in-a-can, and seafood platters) mentioned being at Restaurant au Pied de Cochon. Even splitting the poutine and the seafood, this was in hindsight a bit too ambitious.

My only complaint was that I couldn't seem to get the right kind of iced latte and wound up hitting starbucks more than I wanted to.

da croupier, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:12 (nine years ago) link

oh i coulda helped you with that

glad u had a good time and of course i understand you wouldnt exactly want to be like hey new bride, can we take some time on our honeymoon to meet some random bon vivant from the internet

but if u ever come back, lemme know!!

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:13 (nine years ago) link

hey new bride, can we take some time on our honeymoon to meet some random bon vivant from the internet

Le Proposal Indecent

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:14 (nine years ago) link

How big is Montreal? DO many people live in quaint Olde Worlde apartments with high ceilings above patisseries and such? And ride bicycles in elegantly faded clothes?

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:15 (nine years ago) link

They definitely ride bicycles.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:16 (nine years ago) link

but if u ever come back, lemme know!!

definitely!

da croupier, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:16 (nine years ago) link

actually yes

sean gramophone, Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Is Montreal on a river? What is the countryside like outside of Montreal?

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:18 (nine years ago) link

it's IN a river

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:18 (nine years ago) link

(it's an island)

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Wow!

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:19 (nine years ago) link

I just don't know much about Montreal. All I know is through s1ocki and rrrobyn and I think there were once some olympics there or something. It sounds nice.

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:19 (nine years ago) link

there's some really nice countryside not too far away. the laurentian mountains. the eastern townships (really old settlements). vermont is like 45 minute drive.

al-goreda (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 July 2010 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Which sour beer, Jim?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:59 (two weeks ago) link

was at dieu du ciel, was a wheat, sour cherry type deal iirc.

xp. flopson you were liking vancouver a year ago lol

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

Ha dope! Dieu du Ciel is still undefeated after all these years imo.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

i'm back to liking it again actually. but i feel like i'm always one friendship/relationship away from the threshold of being unbearably lonely and socially alienated. it's one of the worst places imaginable to be depressed in

other than nature and east asian restaurants (which admittedly i place a large weight on) vancouver is pretty terrible on the merits. people are boring and dumb (ON AVERAGE... but east coasters' stereotype of west coast is not entirely inaccurate imho), have bad fashion sense, not outgoing at all, very little communal public social life, the music scenes are mostly collections of isolated groups of friends with 9-to-5s, cool underground parties instantly get discovered by irish and australian bros on work visas, no good grocery stores, no good museums or galleries, super weird layout where the few good neighbourhoods are really far apart, zoning is way too sparse and residential, bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?), housing crisis that no one is doing anything to fix and even many leftists/progressive blame on 'chinese foreign money' or 'developers'

if i weren't doing my phd here i wouldn't stay. having said that, it's a lovely place to do a phd in; a cozy, small, quiet city that's not too full of distraction. ubc and my department especially are fantastic. and i actually get the appeal for a glaswegian bc my great-grandfather moved here from there (after getting destroyed by winters in montreal and winnipeg) in like the 1910s or whatever because he liked the weather

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

I'm a big fan of Station Ho.st.

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?)

It’s the same in the anglo community in Petite Patrie/Mile End/Parc Ex/PSC/St Henri too, fwiw.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:33 (two weeks ago) link

One of the many reasons I struggle in 100% anglo settings tbh.

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

xp i mean that ideology transcends space but it's nowhere near as bad in mtl as in vancouver

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:39 (two weeks ago) link

the mtl music scene is more "pc" perhaps but also has way more queer and poc people, and also way better bands and parties. the vancouver music scene is either unpolitical weird bougie shit like house djs pairing up with overpriced tapas restaurants to cater a 30$ party that sells out in advance, or like a weird high school dynamics version of pc/call-out culture, like this one person who runs a popular underground venue space banned their ex from the venue (and his whole band had to leave their jamspace!) bc he started seeing someone else a couple months after they broke up

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:43 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I trust it is more pervasive in Vancouver, in Montreal you can still have many english speaking friends who don't subscribe to these ideologies.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:44 (two weeks ago) link

I was going to say that IME the ideology you described above is mainly the one of white people with fine art degrees/musicians. Montreal is large and diverse enough that you can have a great social life in media/art while almost being able to ignore those type of people.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

it's every demographic here. i went to church once and the minister started his lecture by acknowledging that he was a genocidal colonizer and asked everyone to say it back lmao. and then the sermon was some vague shit abt how we should listen to indigenous stories but not tell them to each other

i think indigenous sov is super impt and there are good things about the way they're foregrounded here, and i even like some of the more symbolic stuff like land acknowledgements. but a lot of the discourse around it is v weird and often avoids political subtance & is kinda otherizing or wtv

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 17:59 (two weeks ago) link

i once pressed a friend who is particularly egregious w this stuff and they told me that canada should cede all power to indigenous leaders so that they can implement eco-socialism. which, i mean that sounds fine to me if it were to happen, but just goes to show how little that ideology thinks through the political tensions involved (incl within indigenous communities)

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

oh sure, make the indigenous people do all the governing for you, as if their lives haven't been negatively affected enough already

mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:06 (two weeks ago) link

Not the biggest fan of pulling on the first come first serve land sovereignty thread; but really yes, dealing with those white progressive communities is often navigating signal virtuousness waters.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

Also I have a problem with calling yourself a genocidal colonizers when you never participated in institutions that programmed and executed the colonial genocide.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:18 (two weeks ago) link

ya i have a bit of weird feelings about like, calling my grandmother, who moved here fleeing the holocaust and lived as a poor immigrant for decades, a genocidal colonizer

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:43 (two weeks ago) link

bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?)

ha, this is so true.

lot of people playing "I'm a bougie white person with vaguely "left" neoliberal identity politics how do i express my political beliefs in a the most woo woo way in a manner that conforms to what i imagine POC and indigenous people's interests are?" (oh btw my friend group is 100% white - barring the odd rich canadian of east asian descent)

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

i used to be vegan and i would get criticized for this being racist and classist by rich white people

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:56 (two weeks ago) link

oh yeah sorry for derailing the montreal thread obv.

back to montreal: that gnocchi place next to fairmount bagels is so fucking good

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:04 (two weeks ago) link

I wish I could afford restaurants seriously.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

sending jim out to scout locations a few weeks before I visit somewhere next time instead of a couple months after

I mean, I don't regret the multiple portuguese chicken and poutine meals I ate on the cheap, but..

mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:47 (two weeks ago) link

the gnocchi place is called drogheria fine and it sells one thing - gnocchi in calabrian tomato sauce - it costs $5 and is filling enough to have for lunch. it is $1 extra if you want extra pecorino romano on it

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:50 (two weeks ago) link

worth the drive from Toronto? (i love gnocchi)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:59 (two weeks ago) link

that's one hell of a drive but if you generally like montreal and spending time there then why not

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:07 (two weeks ago) link

the train is an option but spoiler: you can't really see the lake, it's mostly trees the whole way

mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:10 (two weeks ago) link

yeah it's not a very picturesque journey

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:20 (two weeks ago) link

i think it is! taken it there and back a few times.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

isn’t the gnocchi place on beaubien better? or is that the same business that moved?

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:41 (two weeks ago) link

imo it's not a real montreal recommendation if someone doesn't immediately tell you about the better place that's a few blocks away

I've sometimes, after having a meal I really liked, mumbled "oh I had a sandwich nbd" if someone has asked me where I ate lunch, so as to not get sidetracked into where I should have eaten

mh, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:22 (two weeks ago) link

xp. iirc this place has been there for years (like i think it was there last time i visited like 5 years or so ago)

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:23 (two weeks ago) link

Van Horn Street
Posted: October 3, 2019 at 15:10:57
I wish I could afford restaurants seriously.

Lock thread

rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

when i was flush w cash living that yuppie DINC mtl lyfe my ex and i would eat out at a fancy french place one a month; ate at all the toqués, l'expresses, joe beefs. good times

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:50 (two weeks ago) link

i ate at larry's, was dece

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:51 (two weeks ago) link

now i live in vancouver and am broke but eat the best szechuan, vietnamese, korean ive ever had in my life once a week. so, also good times

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:51 (two weeks ago) link

xp- love Larry's

flopson, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:51 (two weeks ago) link

I should admit I have been to some great restaurants here. Bouillon Bilk, Tuck Shop, and Vin Papillon were all rad

rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 23:53 (two weeks ago) link

love vin pap

flopson, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:44 (two weeks ago) link


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