Search and destroy: Neil Young

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I'm stealing this

He should just put out more volumes of "Arc."

is arc on pono yet?

i wonder if they will ever release the "real" authentic Weld David Briggs which were apparently only ever on the VHS film version?

but seriously not to harp on this again but I was just listening to the excellent 2CD basement tapes raw by dylan which i got for $20 and i think about how amazingly awesome dylan's bootleg shit is being handled and how pissed i am at neil sometimes

yup

does dylan get really involved with that stuff or is he like, "as long as i get paid and can release ten of my hot sexy new jams every two or three years"

general impression is that he isn't super involved, likely for the best

in general dylan doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would want to fuss with that stuff

He painted a new cover for the Self Portrait box, he's contributed to liner notes for a few of his sets, and presumably he has to give his OK for anything to get released. But I can't imagine Dylan himself trawling through boxes of tapes, or doing any listening beyond a cursory airing of the finished project.

oh yeah i mean i don't know he approves everything but in general he's not like neil who basically retained some guy to live on his ranch and work on the archives full-time for like 20 years and apparently fucked with said dude and changed his mind about stuff like a zillion times

i wonder what neil would say if you noted how comparatively neurotic he is about this stuff than dylan

he would instantly open the vault

or say some shit about quality v quantity

then write a song about it

he would instantly open the vault

or say some shit about quality v quantity

then write an song album about it

Dylandale

"Me and Bob, we got an innarresting history/heard him sing on the radio in my Dodge in '63/Hey now now hey now now"

we got an innarresting history. Indeed they do. For instance, some book, maybe Shakey, lays out a couple of evenings in California, think it was: some place D. hadn't played for a while, and everybody's all excited, it's going well, and, then top it all, a surprise appearance by "Neil Younnng, everbuddy, here he izz!" So they launch into a tune, it goes on for a while, turns out great. And then---Neil kicks off another. And stays for a long time, maybe the rest of the show.
Second show (next night, I think): "Oh wow, here's NeilYoung again, folks! Ah..."

haha yeah i just re-read that and neil was like cool bob that was great see ya tomorrow night! and bob was ummmmm

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tight bros from way back when

Dylan in a 1985 interview:

The only time it bothered me that someone sounded like me was when I was living in Phoenix, Arizona, in about '72 and the big song at the time was "Heart of Gold". I used to hate it when it came on the radio. I always liked Neil Young, but it bothered me every time I listened to "Heart of Gold." I think it was up at number one for a long time, and I'd say, "Shit, that's me. If it sounds like me, it should as well be me."

i think i know what dylan means there, but at the same time, "heart of gold" doesn't seem like a total dylan copycat.

Young's a much better singer than Dylan

also songwriter and guitarist but i suppose that's debatable

Isn't there a story about Dylan kind of stalking Neil around that time? "Heart of Gold" doesn't sound like Bob all that much but something about it really punched his buttons.

yeah i remember that quote and honestly I don't really get it, unless Dylan just in his head lays claims to the entire swatch of US folk rock (which, you know, he COULD in a way), but neil's chord voicings, that real heavy half palm muted downstrokes on the one-and + kenny buttry's boom-bap drums, and sort of dreamy half-coherent lyrical approach are so unique to neil

neil's basic acoustic rhythm playing is SOOOO good, it's nothing fancy or super complex fingerpicking or thrilling like his full-flight crazy horse jamming but that's why he's so great on the harvest style/goldrush/etc material, he has a "heavy" right hand and conveys a certain heaviness and rock solid rhythmic drive to stuff that nobody else from that era, like whoever you want james taylor etc, had

yeah i mean, maybe the closest thing is john wesley harding (which buttrey played on as well) but that's not really dylan's signature "sound"...
don't know about stalking... dylan showed up unannounced during the zuma sessions in 75.

Dylan: "Wait a minute, it sounds like he's wearing my harmonica holder!"

I feel like basically all classic rock stars were constantly drunk and coked up from 72-76 and all running into each other in the larger LA area

def the time and place I'd go to if able

a huge mistake perhaps

just like fuckin beach house disaster areas with like rick danko and keith moon playing bongos and nilsson passed out in the living room and dennis wilson and joni mitchell out smoking on the deck and clapton and lennon and crosby doing lines in the kitchen

lol otm on both points xp

just like fuckin beach house disaster areas with like rick danko and keith moon playing bongos and nilsson passed out in the living room and dennis wilson and joni mitchell out smoking on the deck and clapton and lennon and crosby doing lines in the kitchen

― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, March 20, 2015 4:42 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feelin this

need this to be a huge mural somewhere...maybe my bedroom

You left out fleetwood mac they should be there too. And the Eagles.

go back a lil earlier and we can squeeze Manson in there

i wonder if dylan's sentiments re heart of gold were influenced by the period - it hit #1 in early 72 during the long gap between new morning and the pat garrett soundtrack.

the quote:

"The only time it bothered me that someone sounded like me was when I was living in Phoenix, Arizona, in about '72 and the big song at the time was "Heart of Gold." I used to hate it when it came on the radio. I always liked Neil Young, but it bothered me every time I listened to "Heart of Gold." I think it was up at number one for a long time, and I'd say, "Shit, that's me. If it sounds like me, it should as well be me."

I needed to lay back for awhile, forget about things, myself included, and I'd get so far away and turn on the radio and there I am. But it's not me. It seemed to me somebody else had taken my thing and had run away with it and, you know, I never got over it."

so while it's not quite some weiland-vedder shit, he was still in a place to go "jesus, i turn away for one second and some asshole takes my shtick to the bank"

just like fuckin beach house disaster areas with like rick danko and keith moon playing bongos and nilsson passed out in the living room and dennis wilson and joni mitchell out smoking on the deck and clapton and lennon and crosby doing lines in the kitchen

― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, March 20, 2015 12:42 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's footage of Danko and Moon from around that time that was supposed to be in The Kids Are Alright, but it got cut at the last minute.

ha, i just put them together in my mind because those two would seem to be two chaotic, drug gobbling peas in a pod

that's one of the funny things about the Band in general, is just their sort of dour frontiersman imagery esp in their photos juxtaposed with the fact they were all such good old boy party animals (except maybe garth)

like in that levon helm documentary about his last years, he talks about partying with procol harum and how they were some awesome dudes and how he was dropping acid

Neil doing Dylan-y stuff is by no means my favourite Neil ('Heart of Gold' is not Dylan-y, wtf's Bob on about?)

why was he living in phoenix?

Ashtabula got too hectic

my apologies if anyone here is their age, but i think most of us are also dealing with a hindsight awareness of neil's whole vibe. let's not forget "sugar mountain" was a b-side until the late '70s.

obv it's not even gaye-estate level actionable, but if i put myself in dylan's shoes it's not unbelievable he'd get a case of the green eyed monster

xp was it "Live Rust" that rehabilitated that song into the Neil canon?

I always liked Stealers Wheel, but it bothered me every time I listened to "Stuck in the Middle with You."

Neil should've responded with "yeah well the next #1 was A Horse With No Name...I hadn't even left and they'd replaced me"

(xpost) Yeah--with "Stuck in the Middle with You" and Mott's "I Wish I Was Your Mother" and Cockney Rebel's "Make Me Smile" and many more, there were a lot of spot-on Dylan imitations around that time. "Heart of Gold" really wasn't one of them. (Mott and Harley come a little later.)