shrewder looks like he couldn't care less tonight
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
this crowd would be so much fun in the finals
― Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
glad mark jackson was such a dick to the organization cos we would probably be stuck in the same boat if he was a normal nice guy
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:36 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that was extremely fortunate
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:40 (nine years ago) link
glad mark jackson was such a dick to the organization cos we would probably be stuck in the same boat if he was a normal nice guy --Steph def def (Spottie)
I was reading an SI feature on the warriors from a while back and it boggled my mind to learn the extent of his bullshit - like turning players against each other, being all religious and saying hella homophobic shit about like jason collins, ugh x 1,000
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:40 (nine years ago) link
he is a super bad human
― Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link
link? xp
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link
there was this from december http://www.insidebayarea.com/warriors/ci_27078013/warriors-co-owner-lacob-lists-reasons-firing-mark
― Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:46 (nine years ago) link
"Part of it was that he couldn't get along with anybody else in the organization," Lacob said. "And look, he did a great job, and I'll always compliment him in many respects, but you can't have 200 people in the organization not like you."
― Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:47 (nine years ago) link
link? xp --lag∞n
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/02/20/golden-state-warriors-steve-kerr-stephen-curry-klay-thompson-joe-lacob
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link
lots of good stuff about Kerr in there too
mjax also didn't like mike malone, a dude who clearly has some of the worst luck in the league
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:55 (nine years ago) link
man that stuff about praying for jason collins when one of jackson's bosses was like the only out sports executive is just heinous
― Clay, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:59 (nine years ago) link
I had kind of forgotten the irony of Nelson being fired by two teams shortly after drafting the players that would change the face of the franchise.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:05 (nine years ago) link
Wtf at that article calling Barnes and klay Thompson "positionless wings," though. Come on.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link
"Bruce Jenkins is the dean of bay area sportswriters". eat a diiiiiiiick
― polyphonic, Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:09 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj56UOT-pFk
― moullet, Thursday, 19 March 2015 06:58 (nine years ago) link
The baron davis BS report is worth a watch fyi.
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, 19 March 2015 07:22 (nine years ago) link
cld easily be a sub 30% 3 pt shooter on a team where opponents can afford to defend him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this is true but his defense is so good that he would still be very very valuable
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
too many verys imo
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link
his one-on-one post defense is kinda crazy good for someone his size and he can check wings, it's pretty valuable
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
warriors play really good team defense, suspect hes not quite as good on that end individually as ppl think, like i doubt the dubs wld be that psyched abt him guarding LMA for a 7 game series, hes this years role player on a great team who ppl have fallen in love with is my thesis m/l
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
like its easier to get up in ppls grill when u have bogut wandering around behind u
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link
J0rdan S. wrote this on thread the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2) on board I Love Hoops on Dec 23, 2012
it's completely absurd that draymond green didn't get picked in the first round
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link
that is absurd but theres a wide gulf between the first round and the type of love hes getting
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
here's a great argument against the nba going to a bracket system http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/3/19/8257131/heres-the-nba-playoffs-bracket-we-will-not-get
i can't believe we're gonna miss out on such scintillating first round match ups as warriors-bucks, blazers-wizards, hawks-suns, mavericks-raptors and grizzlies-pelicans
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
instead well get the entire easter conference, cool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:22 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This was great
― pandemic, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link
cavs-heat is a more compelling first round match up than any of those i named, and i think at this point i'd rather see the celtics in the playoffs than this wheezing suns team
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
there's literally no way to make every playoff matchup good unless you reduce the number of teams in the playoffs
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
a. ur tripping. b. focusing on whatever the current matchups are is kinda missing the point c. if u r gonna focus on the current matchups at least consider that one of either durant/westbrook of anthony davis is missing the playoff
xp
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
if you continue to draw that bracket out you get
warriors vs cavs/spursrockets/thunder vs blazers
hawks vs mavsgrizzlies vs clippers
warriors vs ... somebody hawks vs grizzlies
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
ziller is making a fairness argument which... whatever, i don't get why sports need to be as fair as possible
from an entertainment standpoint i don't think it makes the playoffs any better at least this year
at least this year... on this date... bizarrely overrating shitty eastern conf first round series lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
its not just fairness, putting the better teams in the playoffs will actually lead to better basketball this is not hard to understand
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
such scintillating first round match ups as warriors-bucks, blazers-wizards, hawks-suns, mavericks-raptors and grizzlies-pelicans
three out of five of those would be fine imo! not the first one, as the bucks have in many ways failed my hopes of their underdog success, and def not hawks vs. the current flailing suns
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
current system is why it2 and marcus will most likely be in the 1st round of playoffs so i cant really be mad this time around, otoh it allows one out of two defibrillating teams (heat and pacers) to make it as well - unless the bucks continue struggling and fall out completely, which is totally possible rn, allowing celtics heat AND pacers to make it
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:26 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
no the question is whether it's worth shifting every match up just to switch out teams 15 and 16 and i don't necessarily think it is!
i think there's a good chance that in more years than not it actually ends up with worse basketball
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
ur literally off ur rocker
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
the solution to this problem is figuring out how to get the eastern conference up to par, rearranging the chairs so people sit in different places doesn't actually accomplish anything
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
worse teams = better basketball, ok
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
i like anthony davis as much anyone but squeezing his team into the playoffs so they can get destroyed in four games by the best team isn't worth throwing the entire playoffs into upheaval
if the three best teams are in one conference it is a super good idea to have the fourth best team make the finals this is a good system that anyone wld totally invent if they wanted the best possible system
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
its not just like an outdated legacy system based on travel logistics or anything
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
isn't worth throwing the entire playoffs into upheaval
― J0rdan S., Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is basically the definition of status quo bias
all were talking about is putting the best teams into the playoffs there is no upheaval really it wld be utterly painless, if the conference system never existed there wld be no way in hell you or anyone wld be trying to invent it right now because its nonsensical
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
the conference system inadvertently builds connections between teams over time which often makes the playoffs more interesting
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
if the goal is to make the sides of the bracket as even as possible then why even leave it up to randomness? form a committee that evenly distributes teams on either side and manipulates the matchups so that we get the "best" basketball
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link
eliminating conference seeding doesn't actually solve anything, in random years it will give us better playoffs and in other years it will give us worse playoffs
xxp it can (and does help to) create rivalries is about it, but many of those rivalries would prob develop regardless (clippers vs. warriors, the slight mavs-spurs rivalry, etc.)
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
it does solve something it replaces the worst teams with better teams making the playoffs... better
also solves the problem of shitty teams from a weak conference sneaking into the finals just to be demolished
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
rivalries are cool but not really worth it imo to have horrible depressing sub 500 teams in the playoffs, also the greatest rivalry of ALL TIME is between teams from diff conferences
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link