Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly (2015)

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(this is good)

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

ok first impresh ~ 30 mins in

- someone had to say it: not as good as GKMC
- ...but it's good... really good
- production a smidge too cluttered
- don't wanna be a downer though... it bangs
- 'king kunta' the standout so far, 'for sale? (interlude)' another highlight

flopson, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link

It's better.

warm winds and clear skies, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link

It took a few full-album listens for me to fully appreciate what a killer opener "Wesley's Theory" is

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 05:34 (nine years ago) link

lol "it's better" cmon now

soyrev, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:02 (nine years ago) link

I like GKMC a lot too, but I immediately liked this more. Taste, what can ya do?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:09 (nine years ago) link

Man, EVERY TIME "For Free?" starts with those low sax notes I think my phone is ringing on vibrate.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:16 (nine years ago) link

It's better.

― warm winds and clear skies, Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:36 (nine years ago) link

man talking about music with people is the pits

misterjoshua, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:48 (nine years ago) link

It's better.

longneck, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:56 (nine years ago) link

Mods, close this thread for a week.

Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 07:28 (nine years ago) link

no one talking about how bad his rapping is

Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 08:02 (nine years ago) link

i'm not anti this album or anything, just surprised everyone skipping over the rapping part of the rap albm

Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 08:04 (nine years ago) link

the start of "for free?" kinda hits a sour note...it's like a mean-spirited parody of "lookin' ass" or something. not sure whether the amazing music/twist at the end outweigh it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 08:09 (nine years ago) link

If he knew how to write a hook/have even mildly insightful something to say other than pussy/money/his dick/ maybe his rapping skills could be put to some use. Usually his production is solid enough. The Art of Peer Pressure was pretty good, more focused. But he doesn't have enough verbal dexterity or technique to pull off his cliched lyrics.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:52 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

more insight on Kendrick from Rac's On Rac's On Rac's

some dude, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 11:46 (nine years ago) link

I think "better" or "worse" are sort of bad terms in this discussion, I think at this point we should agree that Kendrick is a significant album artist and this section 80 and good kid are all interesting entries in his career, they all bring different themes & vibes & musicality to the table but that's why I think people perceive him as maybe a cut above a lot of rappers now

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link

^

, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link

I agree that he's a significant artist, and so far I like this better than GKMC -- but with the caveat that I never really got on board with that one, despite repeat efforts. I hate to be That Guy, but ... I wish he was more fun. I wish he had more fun.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link

That said -- I like the first track, "King Kunta," "u," "Alright," "Hood Politics" and "i" all plenty -- and they are hardly joyless.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

this dick ain't FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link

Right, more of that basically.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link

heh i didn't even notice the radiohead beat on my first listen thru since theres so much else going on

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link

The K.Dot part of that song was like slam poetry/50s speakeasy whoa, I'm still not sure if I admire it or am amused by it

(basically it'll be late summer before i know how I feel about this album really)

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link

I love this album so much. I think I've listened to it 10x now. Favourite part is the rap-crying bit in 'u', I thought it was a bit silly at first, but love it now.

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

this is really insanely good. trying to remember the last time I was so bowled over by a rap record this dense, rich etc. it's been awhile

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link

This album's longer than my first bad mushroom trip.

Doran, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link

(It's significantly more enjoyable however.)

Doran, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

it is very trippy.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link

still really looking forward to a black hippy album. hope it happens someday.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link

what does that mean exactly

Evan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

he hopes that they do a black hippy album w/the crew?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Black Hippy is the rap collective that Kendrick came up as part of

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

oh!

Evan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

i am trying to imagine what you thought that might mean

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

I thought he was describing a sound or something, which is why I was confused.

Evan, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Too bad he's the only one of them making music worth a damn.

longneck, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

yeah he outshines the rest by so far I would think such an enterprise would be fraught with battling egos, concessions, etc.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

i prefer this to good kid but i was always more impressed with good kid than i actually loved it

I've been slow to warm to him - didn't like Section 80 at all and maybe heard Good Kid like twice before forgetting about it but this one has definitely grabbed me

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

I cherrypicked with GKMC but I let this one run the whole way

, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Too bad he's the only one of them making music worth a damn.

― longneck, Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:39 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

schoolboy Q's habits & contradictions and oxymoron are both good and occasionally excellent imo but a lot of ppl were very disappointed by oxymoron

as for the other guys, ab-soul and jay rock are only ever good as feature rappers (and sometimes soul especially is meh), the isaiah rashad album was solid but i need to hear more from him before making an informed qualitative judgment

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

i like absoul's work quite a lot. Schoolboy prior to oxymoron is great and even oxy is pretty good. Rashad's first feature was excellent. jay has never clicked for me.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

This album is exhausting.

Benjamin-, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Part of why I never jumped in on Lamar is that my feeling was (and still remains, mostly) that the other Black Hippy guys were more interesting/better

This is shifting somewhat because Ab Soul and Schoolboy Q have fallen off in the past 12 months

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Rashad and KL seem to have the most potential to be great out of the BH crew. KL's already demonstrated that. Really looking forward to a proper Isaiah Rashad album.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Jay Rock's 'Follow Me Home' is really good.

Steph def def (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

I liked Cilvia Demo a lot last year but have grown to love it in the last couple weeks.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

no one talking about how bad his rapping is

― Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:02 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bc no one agrees with you

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

All of Q's albums have really great moments but are inconsistent.

Ab-Soul's Control System is totally on par with Section.80, if maybe not the last two Kendrick albums, but the album he put out last year was dook bootie.

Jay Rock's been killing everything he touches but just can't get it together to release his own project, which I would highly anticipate. Follow Me Home was pretty good but that was years ago.

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

Jay Rock has improved a lot since his first album

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link


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