quick question about bannings

damn i really went hard in this thread

racoon tanuki is like lariqua minus everything that was entertaining about him, gotta be one of the worst posters in ilx history

Yeah which is why we were unanimous in our rejection even before the bigotry we all deemed unacceptable, mod equivocation here is typically embarrassing impressively blithe, kiu champs

Getting yelled at for banning anyone ever vs. getting yelled at for not banning people hard enough. It's like, hey what can you do, you know?

quit being a mod! i recommend it!

nobody said it was easy

having said that

lol. as I was reading forks' post, I figured it was wins until I saw the dn.

I would never!

I also promise not to yell at you for banning the guy nobody wants here

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-RcX5DS5A

^ dedicated to hardworking mods everywhere

has he brought anything off site yet if not he's not even bottom three

let him stay, things were getting fairly staid

thx for starting this thread, babyboy, but i'm not waiting two innings for you to get to Citi Field this year.

btw amateurist has now progressed to claiming i write "obama = hitler" posts, so he should get to civility about 5 years after i am dead.

one thing i really appreciate about you is that you're willing to fight w/ anyone

If morbs had been around to post about adolt shitler and the third retch just think how differently things might have turned out

anyone who needs to be pooped on

i very seldom fight with anyone who's smart enough to stay off the fucking politics threads

now Morbs is in this thread title makes me think of Kieslowski's Dekalog more than ever

I tht tanuki was Corey/clouds. Clearly this is some other person. Ive never heard of em but ILM is a whole othe universe to me.

you whaaat

oh wait yeah I see the confusion haha

as in, i think he had the name tanuki for a bit

Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:53 AM Site Boring, Maryland has been banned permanently. that's a big no to suicide "jokes"

uh, can Boring be given the calzino treatment and this be tempered into a 3 day temp ban -- if that is actually the mods intent, then cool. ... Also see original post in this thread for context ... it was an obvious "gallows humor" joke and wasn't even suggesting the poster in question kill himself

I didn't think it was that obvious, and was a beyond stupid "joke." board lawyering is unlikely to accomplish anything here besides waste people's time. I don't think the mod in question needs to justify the decision further at all.

i think things like this should be taken in the context of the poster's history here, as happened with calzino. also, i hate to bring this up, but one of the things people on the left are _really_ concerned about is apparent bias. people might get the idea that a centrist saying the same thing that boring did would be met with a more lenient response. since this isn't a hypothesis anybody particularly want to see tested, it's a hard belief to argue against, and we're all particularly sensitive to it in light of facebook equating antifa with qanon.

Uh ... as opposed to the board lawyering done on calzino's behalf that actually did accomplish something? ... I understand the instinct to ban and the immediate action, but letting this stand just ... I'm sorry, but I think ILX is smarter and more thoughtful than that. ... At least I want to.

It would be different if that post was made on a thread about suicide or depression, or addressed to a poster who has openly posted about struggles with ideation and mental illness ... similar to the calzino stabbing thing -- it's bad precedent, though the initial mod impulse is understandable. I'm just requesting that this be a temp-ban or (ideally imo) a yellow card. Like, I'm not going "fuck mods" about this ...

Clearly the trick is to bring it up in the ADMIN LOG 2 thread.

might work better if the person bringing it up isn't the person that started the ADMIN LOG 2 thread

There's an admin log?

Anyway sarahell I agree with you, after what happened with calzino I think it would be beneficial to have some sort of post-mortem examination of the context of Boring's statement. Honestly I know very little about Boring or about their history with the board.

What was the joke? Who is Boring?

Ok found it. Idk what they intended. I’m happy with the idea of anyone who responds to posters with an urge to “kill themselves”—sadly common on the internet, should have no place here—but idk if this was that

Suicide. Wasn’t obviously a joke to me as a poster on that thread fwiw.

Happy with the idea of *banning* anyone..

I was wondering about who Boring is as well.

did you think that posters literally believed that whiney wanted to drown Zooey DesChanel and Katy Perry?

No

I mean, whiney has killed lots of people. How could we have known he would draw the line at katy perry?

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

your irises like shimmering river water aren't gonna save you now, California Girl! Yeah, no one is gonna party with you anymore, Katy!!!

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

that's the thing. if it was specifically targeted toward another poster, a permanent ban makes sense. but if not, then idk.

remember, i was all on the side of the mods last time. i'm no insurrectionist.

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

― Scampos Runamuck (WmC)

i'm repeating myself from the other thread, but i want to make it clear that i'm not defending boring's behavior, i don't think it's acceptable, and "only joking" is no defense. immediately banning boring was good moderation.

I nominate sarahell and treeship to be mods

i nominate no thanks lol

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

― treeship., Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:44 PM

are you fucking serious, jesus christ get away from me with your weirdness

Anyway, I'm totally ok if other mods decide to shorten the ban.

i am serious. i think he might have been making a point like that -- like a resigned shrug, "we're stuck."

but also, it doesn't matter to me. so i'll get off the topic.

Camus and I share a birthday, can I at least be a mod of ILAFL

also my co-revivor of the ILAFL board, nilmar honorata de silva also voiced his support for me receiving mod powers of said sub-board.

WmC otm, don’t know why people have decided this is their hill, but seriously log off, you and we will be better for it.