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the late great, Monday, 16 March 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

maybe not

:-(

the late great, Monday, 16 March 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Enjoyed both those problems from a month ago.

Do you guys know the formula for generating Pythagorean triples?

You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah, a^2 + b^2 = c^2

the late great, Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

That is the equation they must satisfy, yes, but there is a simple way to generate the integral trios (a,b,c) that will work.

You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link

The way I learned to derive it in high school used number theory 101 but there is also a geometric demonstration I just came across.

You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i saw it in a geometry summer course but don't remember. care to demonstrate?

attempt some putnam problems: http://kskedlaya.org/putnam-archive/2014.pdf

flopson, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

a friend gave me the statement of a top-secret combinatorics theorem he proved. can't share the deets but it's so elementary i couldn't believe it wasn't already done or a special case of something else. been fudging my way through a proof all weekend

flopson, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link

gotta check those untranslated soviet math textbooks for those things iirc

jennifer islam (silby), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link

I never did contest math in HS and I'm still only at best a fake fake mathematician (i.e. a programmer who actually enjoyed theoretical CS classes) so Putnam problems just seem unattainable to me

jennifer islam (silby), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link

there was a putnam prep class at my undergrad you could sit in on, mostly just watching in disbelief as the prof, a hyper-intense russian graph theorist, crushed every problem in a matter of seconds

flopson, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link

Proof by calculus: "This proof requires calculus, so we'll skip it."

otm

jennifer islam (silby), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Archimedes frowns.

hint to flopson: use stereographic projection.

Thank You For Talking Machine Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

Thanks to caek's post here: academic language is often purposely obfuscated I read Timothy Gower's Mathematics: A Very Short Introduction a while back, which blew my mind as some kind of masterpiece of popularization, which eventually led me to the Princeton Companion To Mathematics which he addeds and sort of takes the same spirit and enlarges it a thousand-fold with tons of useful explanations of advanced mathematical subjects without diverging into the usual bifurcation of either oversimplification + dodgy metaphors or too much technical detail.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Of course, it is kind of a different thing not a popularization.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Well that's now on my mental wishlist

jennifer islam (silby), Saturday, 16 May 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Maybe you are near a library that has it?

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

lol the first copy i stole from the internet still has editorial markup in its margins

PUP: Tim would
like to keep
‘brackets’ as even
he, as a
mathematician,
would say
‘brackets’ rather
than the more
formal
‘parentheses’. OK?

j., Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

i never call them parentheses in math

flopson, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

In addition to referring to the class of all types of brackets, the unqualified word bracket is most commonly used to refer to a specific type of bracket. In modern American usage this is usually the square bracket and in modern British usage this is usually the parenthesis.

j., Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

"addeds" should be "edited" of course.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

speaking of popular mathematics, has anybody read courant's "what is mathematics?"

my dad swears by it, was wondering if anybody here could give it a thumbs up or down

the late great, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

for comparison, last two pop math books i read were morris kline's "mathematics for the non-mathematician" and stewart's "concepts of modern mathematics" (ian, not james)

the late great, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

Mega thumbs up for Courant and Robbins, and for Gowers. Not for Kline or Stewart.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Wazzabout Geometry and the Imagination, Hilbert and Cohn-Vossen?

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

obv a classic

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i enjoyed both kline and stewart, though i ultimately felt stewart lacked depth. kline was a little dry, i guess

the late great, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

They're not super well-informed, that's all.

You might enjoy Plato's Ghost?

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

damn, too late for a PIDMAS joke

☂ (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

what do you mean, euler?

"plato's ghost" sounds great!

the late great, Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Wow, lot's of rave reviews for Plato's Ghost on Amazon, including yours.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

I just mean that Kline esp didn't know his stuff very well.

Plato's Ghost is fun! but haha a uh friend of mine is quoted about it by the publisher on the Amazon page. positive quote

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

xp eek

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

Hm. NYPL has Plato' Ghost but it is completely different book.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Plato' Ghost must haunt me now

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

my kids thought it was a scary book when they were littler. we had to hide it

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

that VSI is kind of a miracle. every other VSI (including the cosmology one) is shoddy or cursory or biased or otherwise weird. but that is afaict an effective, readable and serious introduction to professional higher mathematics. and it's like 50 pages. i should definitely take a look at his princeton companion.

the more traditional NPR pop maths book i liked most recently (i.e. published in the last 10 years) was zero: biography of a dangerous idea. good book.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

Some are better than others. The one on Galileo has a strange angle to push, one on Newton is pretty good I think.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Maybe you are near a library that has it?

― Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:41 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

work for UW now so I can abuse my library privileges for it I guess.

jennifer islam (silby), Saturday, 16 May 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

Newton one was written by head of the Newton Project.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

Author of Galileo book was no slouch either, although now I can see the book was not written to be a short course.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Of the little pop math I've read recently, I liked Ekeland's "Mathematics and the Unexpected".

o. nate, Sunday, 17 May 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link

I just read the VSI on antisemitism and it was very weird, more a history of the Holocaust than anything, but it had a couple of outstanding chapters that made it worthwhile. gonna read the german philosophy volume next.

that was just about the VSI series. obligatory math content: Mathematics Under the Nazis by Sanford Segal is fascinating

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:48 (eight years ago) link

the german philosophy one is just a reprint of an old scruton book iirc, would give it a pass

j., Sunday, 17 May 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

was looking at one by Andrew Bowie ?

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 17 May 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

who I don't know, but I want some guidance on where to start with german idealism re. the rise of German anti-semitism in particular

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 17 May 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

oh, it seems they've replaced the old one i read then

j., Sunday, 17 May 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

Have always seen those Morris Kline books about, never read one. This other guy Carl B. Boyer looks like he might be good though

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 May 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link


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