Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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More code for "neoliberalism" imo

Mordy, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

The man Doug Williams with a booming post


“What are we doing here?”

That is a question that I often ask my wife, a fellow organizer. I do not ask that question about place; I ask that question about strategy. I wonder what shaming people for simple mistakes does for movement-building, or abusing basic sociological concepts to divide people and disrupt momentum, or acting like the capitalists and privileged classes that we claim to be against. Her answer is the same every time: “I have no idea.”

Neither do I. And neither do the communities who need our help."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

what happened with your housemate

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

Everything has been put on hold due to the sudden unfortunate news that the house has been bought out from under us. There's not a lot of point in mediation if we're ending this arrangement by the fall.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link

"Judeo-Christian values" imo only exist as a vague endorsement of the position that the ten commandments form the right and proper foundation for morality.

The vague phraseology allows the person endorsing j-c values to hint that they are really referencing the "thou shalt not kill/steal/commit adultrery/bear false witness" bits. However, the person using the phrase usually thinks the "thou shalt have no other gods before me" and "remember the Sabbath and keep it holy" bits are absolutely indispensable, but they prefer not to say so, in case you have trouble with them.

Aimless, Sunday, 15 March 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link

idk the right place for this article, but this is as good as any i guess? http://thehardtimes.net/2015/03/11/safe-space-actually-a-terrible-fire-hazard/

creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Sunday, 15 March 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

no racism but you're more likely to die: the post-colonialism story

Mordy, Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link

the new owner of the house has bought it as an 'owner occupant,' saying he and his lovely small family intend to live in the house, which means we don't get our tenant-opportunity-to-purchase rights back--but after a quick meeting with him and a little research, we've discovered he works for a law firm that specializes in CYA for flipping houses. his job title, no bullshit, is 'evictions specialist.'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link

if we can gather enough evidence that he's likely to flip the house it's possible we could challenge his purchase, but its doubtful we'll be able to make that happen

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

at least leave a bunch of creepy dolls inside the walls and under the floors before you move out

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link

maybe he's just a nice little evictions specialist with a nice little family, comes home after a long day of evicting people, reclines on the couch, pops open a cold one, doesn't evict anyone until it's back to work the next day

j., Monday, 16 March 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

i'm trying to make my way thru this

http://theamericanreader.com/jenesuispasliberal-entering-the-quagmire-of-online-leftism/

and it is really bad. so far. he's putting in a lot of work to come up with this schema for the left that feels totally unmoored from any real person or occurence

goole, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

idk where else to post this but it's lol:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/karen-halnon-professor-airplane-arrest

Karen Halnon, identified as an associate professor of sociology at Penn State, was on an American Airlines flight from Nicaragua to Miami, according to television station WFOR.

“The United States has declared war on Venezuela,” Halnon repeated throughout the video, which was posted to YouTube as a clip titled "Crazy woman on a plane."

“Venezuela has been declared a national security threat," she repeated on the video.

"You're a national security threat," another passenger shot back.

Halnon later told WFOR that she was returning from a trip to Nicaragua working with single mothers and felt the need to talk to people about the destructiveness of U.S. imperialism.

On the tape, she eventually unbuckled her seatbelt as passengers around her groaned.

"My great hero Hugo Chavez nationalized the oil supply," she said. Halnon was then informed by a flight attendant that the police would be arresting her shortly.

At one point, Halnon calmly lit a cigarette as the passenger next to her got up and left.

"This girl's a gangster," another onlooker said.

Hanlon confirmed to WFOR that she indeed lit a cigarette on the plane.

“I took a few puffs out of it," she said. "Every other revolutionary smokes. Fidel. Daniel Ortega. Tomás Borge. Che Guevara."

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link

as the passenger next to her got up and left.

most startling line in report

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

"shit that looks like an onion article but isn't"

drash, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

does Daniel Ortega smoke? this page is no help

http://www.vipfaq.com/Daniel%20Ortega.html

soref, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

evictions are cool

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

“The United States has declared war on Venezuela,” Halnon repeated throughout the video, which was posted to YouTube as a clip titled "Crazy woman on a plane."

i love how deadpan this reads

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

Flakes on a Plane

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

hiyiooooooo

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

If sexual assault becomes qualified as rape, what happens next? What else can we legally redefine to become rape?

waht

example (crüt), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

Thank you for the lols though

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

True, whose Facebook page says he studies “How to Annoy People” at Reed,

gonna graduate summa cum laude by the looks of it

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

oh man!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

true as a subset of "life is a terrifying experience if you are a sentient being"

example (crüt), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link

seems to be a pretty clear case of a guy with a good amount of education without the intellect to successfully apply it. mixed in with a giant serving of narcissism is the perfect recipe for a loud troll, which is really all he is. also a dickhead.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

this is silly and unhelpful

“Please know that this was a difficult decision for me to make and one that I have never made before; nevertheless, in light of the serious stress you have caused your classmates, I feel that I have no other choice,” Savery wrote in the email,

this is insane and abusive

een, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

I keep wanting to quote something from these and post a sarcastic response, but there are too many oblivious quotes from this guy. Send him to reddit college or something.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

he does seem like a royal pain in the ass, but just based on this it does seem like he's doing what you're supposed to do, officially, when you go to college, even if he's doing it on the basis of rong beliefs. probably it's kind of maddening to experience the clash of the rational-critical-discussion ideology and the this-is-a-safe-place-for-learning ideology. especially when combined with an old-fashioned OSTRACISM. he's probably reading john stuart mill inveighing against conformist social pressure as an obstacle to the truth in one class and then in another his classmates and his teacher are colluding to exclude him from his own education.

j., Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link

If is he supposed to educate himself he can do that through a million other ways than going in to a college where other people are paying lots of money to hear this expert talk about stuff and ruining their value.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

what are you talking about?

he got thrown out of a discussion section.

j., Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

College is not a place where you go and everyone in class talks to the professor about their shared experiences and they learn organically. You pay money to take classes. The professors are teaching the class, not the students.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

If is he supposed to educate himself he can do that through a million other ways than going in to a college

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

glad we're making college a safe space from being educated. i can't wait for the inevitable story of an identity studies professor explaining to an inquisitive student that it's not their job to educate them and that asking them to do so is like demanding free labor.

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

xxp no doubt that's a rationale for a professor asserting control over a classroom when a student monopolizes a discussion. but… he got thrown out of a discussion section. we're not talking about 'let the professor teach, he's who we paid to hear'.

j., Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Please explain again why this guy did what you are supposed to? Do you realize how many actual victims (that he has discounted as not existing or numbers being inflated) have "done what you are supposed to do" and report their shit and get turned away because of attitudes like his?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

lol @ identifying listening to a load of mra bullshit from some creep with 'being educated'

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

The professors are teaching the class, not the students.

I like this too ^ I mean totally insane formulation but I can dig it.

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

I don't like what he says, and fucked if I'm gonna defend his right to say it, life's way too short

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

xxp well, for example, when people make claims that cite statistics, you're supposed to inquire about their validity. when people make controversial claims you're supposed to challenge the reasons given for them in order to eventually produce the strongest reasons possible, to better understand the reasons given, and (if it comes to that) to see that the reasons are insufficient for the claim. standard critical-thinking stuff, practically an ideology, like i said. it seems the student has that part of it down. he might not be doing it well, and he might be doing it from a position with unpalatable beliefs or unexamined assumptions of its own, but still… the assumption is that you do it in order to improve, generally, the state of everyone's beliefs. if there's something wrong with his, then the whole point of being in college is that he go through the long and often uncomfortable (not just for him) process of putting his wrong beliefs to the test of discussion with others.

standard liberal-arts crap, no?

j., Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

Yo, Bruneau, might be worth your while to check into not only how colleges generally, but Reed College specifically, actually works. Here, I will be a bro and get you started:

Reed maintains a 10:1 student-to-faculty ratio,[14] and its small classes emphasize a "conference" style, in which the teacher often acts as a mediator for discussion rather than a lecturer. While large lecture-style classes exist, Reed emphasizes its smaller lab and conference sections.

Although letter grades are given to students, grades are de-emphasized at Reed. According to the school, "A conventional letter grade for each course is recorded for every student, but the registrar's office does not distribute grades to students, provided that work continues at satisfactory (C or higher) levels. Unsatisfactory grades are reported directly to the student and the student's adviser. Papers and exams are generally returned to students with lengthy comments but without grades affixed."[15]

I have friends who graduated from Reed. "The professors are teaching the class, not the students," is cuckoo bonkers crazy talk.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

Conference member Tom Maude-Griffin ‘18 says: “The decision to ban him from the conference was virtually unanimous. There were two guys who vocalized issues with banning him… but neither actually said in the conference that they did not agree with the decision.”

probably they were scared of being next

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

lol yeah next step the gulag

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link

it would've been so insane to me if a professor i took in college banished someone for a period so the class could discuss whether they should be allowed back

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

Reed College is a private liberal arts college located in southeast Portland in the U.S. state of Oregon.

Ok, ok. LOL. I am just really confused about why this guy is going to this college.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link


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