Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

my pt tho is that's obv not what this dude means bc the term has a bunch of different meanings depending on the context

For instance in this case an "everyone who's not us" dog whistle.

So in your eyes what defending Israel from a judeo-christian pov means is just "a dog whistle" for everyone that isn't him. Pretty shallow comprehension imho.

i guess i shouldn't be surprised that your interpretation of anything boils down to "secret racism"

Sometimes things are just as shallow as they appear. There might be good reasons to support Israel in various senses of the word "support" but "we believe in the same magical fable, and our fable is better than all those other people's" is a quite bad one.

Sometimes it's "secret racism," sometimes it's "organized religion will kill us all" -- six of one, half dozen of another.

ime "judeo-christian" values does not mean "we believe in the same magical fable," not least bc of the contradictions that arise like toleration of homosexuality which obv have nothing to do w/ the "magical fable" that it the OT or NT

You agree w Jesus but not entirely about the not lending money part, you don't really want to give that up.

ive always taken it be much broader, sort of like an ethnocentrism of "the West."

^^^ ryan gets it

ive always taken it be much broader, sort of like an ethnocentrism of "the West."

agree, because "Christian" incorporates some "classical" "Greco-Roman" values as well

ironically acc to Maimonidies (who is as big an authority of Jewish law as any historical figure, if not the biggest), Judaism is much closer to Islam than to Christianity bc they are both true monotheisms, and a Jew is allowed to go into a Mosque according to halacha (Jewish law) but not into a Church (and my wife and I got in trouble on a Orthodox touring trip to Italy when we slipped away from the group to visit St Peters). so really from a superficial level judeo-christian makes no sense at all, while judeo-islam makes a lot more sense. but since judeo-christian doesn't really mean theological compatibility so much as Western values, it's not a contradiction for this dude using the terminology.

Hm I think I see where I've been unclear, which is that I don't actually think in usage that "jc values" literally means theological compatibility or similarity to most people (although hardcore American Christians do I think literally mean that, but then they don't actually know any Jews probably).

Judaism is much closer to Islam than to Christianity

I think this is true for a lot of reasons!

sunni + shia islam tbh, they're both very theologically + aesthetically appealing to me. i imagine a lot of jews feel that it's a shame that israel + arab nations, or israel + iran (and i've heard from ppl who feel bad about both) haven't been productive relationships when the jews have a lot of commonalities w/ both. have u seen pictures of this building from my alma matter?

http://blogs.yu.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2011/09/Yeshiva-U1.jpg

mmmm i love minarets

daniel mael is an up and coming right wing hatchet man in the greater breitbart cooperation sphere, why are you all talking about this journalist's code-phrases to describe what he believes

bc eephus wrote: "As a Jew I am truly baffled by what "Judeo-Christian values" is supposed to mean."

"judeo-christian" is iirc a neologism of the 50s, when some profession of adherence to a faith (w/o getting too testy about the details plz) was seen as best civic religion vs communism, and (public) antisemitism became more and more taboo

xp ah well i hope eephus has learned something

might as well just be code for "conservatism" in this case tbh

More code for "neoliberalism" imo

The man Doug Williams with a booming post

“What are we doing here?”

That is a question that I often ask my wife, a fellow organizer. I do not ask that question about place; I ask that question about strategy. I wonder what shaming people for simple mistakes does for movement-building, or abusing basic sociological concepts to divide people and disrupt momentum, or acting like the capitalists and privileged classes that we claim to be against. Her answer is the same every time: “I have no idea.”

Neither do I. And neither do the communities who need our help."

what happened with your housemate

Everything has been put on hold due to the sudden unfortunate news that the house has been bought out from under us. There's not a lot of point in mediation if we're ending this arrangement by the fall.

foiled again :-(

http://www.citadelnutritionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/moneybags.jpg

"Judeo-Christian values" imo only exist as a vague endorsement of the position that the ten commandments form the right and proper foundation for morality.

The vague phraseology allows the person endorsing j-c values to hint that they are really referencing the "thou shalt not kill/steal/commit adultrery/bear false witness" bits. However, the person using the phrase usually thinks the "thou shalt have no other gods before me" and "remember the Sabbath and keep it holy" bits are absolutely indispensable, but they prefer not to say so, in case you have trouble with them.

idk the right place for this article, but this is as good as any i guess? http://thehardtimes.net/2015/03/11/safe-space-actually-a-terrible-fire-hazard/

no racism but you're more likely to die: the post-colonialism story

the new owner of the house has bought it as an 'owner occupant,' saying he and his lovely small family intend to live in the house, which means we don't get our tenant-opportunity-to-purchase rights back--but after a quick meeting with him and a little research, we've discovered he works for a law firm that specializes in CYA for flipping houses. his job title, no bullshit, is 'evictions specialist.'

if we can gather enough evidence that he's likely to flip the house it's possible we could challenge his purchase, but its doubtful we'll be able to make that happen

at least leave a bunch of creepy dolls inside the walls and under the floors before you move out

maybe he's just a nice little evictions specialist with a nice little family, comes home after a long day of evicting people, reclines on the couch, pops open a cold one, doesn't evict anyone until it's back to work the next day

i'm trying to make my way thru this

http://theamericanreader.com/jenesuispasliberal-entering-the-quagmire-of-online-leftism/

and it is really bad. so far. he's putting in a lot of work to come up with this schema for the left that feels totally unmoored from any real person or occurence

idk where else to post this but it's lol:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/karen-halnon-professor-airplane-arrest

Karen Halnon, identified as an associate professor of sociology at Penn State, was on an American Airlines flight from Nicaragua to Miami, according to television station WFOR.

“The United States has declared war on Venezuela,” Halnon repeated throughout the video, which was posted to YouTube as a clip titled "Crazy woman on a plane."

“Venezuela has been declared a national security threat," she repeated on the video.

"You're a national security threat," another passenger shot back.

Halnon later told WFOR that she was returning from a trip to Nicaragua working with single mothers and felt the need to talk to people about the destructiveness of U.S. imperialism.

On the tape, she eventually unbuckled her seatbelt as passengers around her groaned.

"My great hero Hugo Chavez nationalized the oil supply," she said. Halnon was then informed by a flight attendant that the police would be arresting her shortly.

At one point, Halnon calmly lit a cigarette as the passenger next to her got up and left.

"This girl's a gangster," another onlooker said.

Hanlon confirmed to WFOR that she indeed lit a cigarette on the plane.

“I took a few puffs out of it," she said. "Every other revolutionary smokes. Fidel. Daniel Ortega. Tomás Borge. Che Guevara."

as the passenger next to her got up and left.

most startling line in report

"shit that looks like an onion article but isn't"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wy2tQ951XZ8/TcBjVtpO40I/AAAAAAAAABk/AxxjvSWmGX4/s320/Virginia-Slimsad1968.jpg

does Daniel Ortega smoke? this page is no help

http://www.vipfaq.com/Daniel%20Ortega.html

evictions are cool

“The United States has declared war on Venezuela,” Halnon repeated throughout the video, which was posted to YouTube as a clip titled "Crazy woman on a plane."

i love how deadpan this reads

Flakes on a Plane

hiyiooooooo

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/college-professor-bans-student-from-class-for-his-views-on-r#.uq5pzANq3

If sexual assault becomes qualified as rape, what happens next? What else can we legally redefine to become rape?

waht

Thank you for the lols though

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

True, whose Facebook page says he studies “How to Annoy People” at Reed,

gonna graduate summa cum laude by the looks of it

https://www.change.org/p/reed-college-restore-jeremiah-josias-luther-george-true-to-his-humanities-110-conference-2

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

oh man!

true as a subset of "life is a terrifying experience if you are a sentient being"

seems to be a pretty clear case of a guy with a good amount of education without the intellect to successfully apply it. mixed in with a giant serving of narcissism is the perfect recipe for a loud troll, which is really all he is. also a dickhead.

http://www.reedquest.org/freshman-excluded-from-conference-petition-sparks-controversy/

“Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”

this is silly and unhelpful

“Please know that this was a difficult decision for me to make and one that I have never made before; nevertheless, in light of the serious stress you have caused your classmates, I feel that I have no other choice,” Savery wrote in the email,

this is insane and abusive