it is the worst, the songs just aren't there
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 7 March 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
Can't remember if Spiritualized led me to S3 or not but their cuts so far are just so...mopey. Lord can you Hear Me? is a similar emotion with all of that nonsense cut out.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 March 2015 10:04 (nine years ago) link
^ otm. just listened to "don't just do something" for the first time since the release of let it come down. gak.
― Soylent News Service (contenderizer), Saturday, 7 March 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
i like several tracks on amazing grace. so there. okay maybe not several but at least two.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 March 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Although I didn't vote for it, it's nice to see LICD get a bit of a critical resurrection here.
I'm still disappointed. The lead up to it was terrific: Jason fires the band, poaches Julian Cope's metal/Hawkwind group, talks about twenty minute krautrock jams, and then Mimi Parker guest on vocals. Instead it was a hour of mope. I'm glad "Rock And Roll" was shoved off onto a b-side because its one of his worst songs, if not, the worst to use "rock and roll" somewhere in the title.
Also: Will Let It Come Down be a Be Here Now or an Urban Hymns?
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 March 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link
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37 - I Believe It80 points, 3 votes, 1 number onehttp://youtu.be/hhWLwJ3P_eI
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 March 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link
(all images taken from drug abuse themed stock photo collections)
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 March 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
Also, TOO LOW!
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 March 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link
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36 - Anyway That You Want Me82 points, 4 votes, 1 number onehttp://youtu.be/YleJPoKBqrw
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 March 2015 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Love "I Believe It," It's like an airplane crash survival kit equivalent of a Spacemen 3 song. No frills, just 2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord.
― klonman, Sunday, 8 March 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
Lol
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 March 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
I'm always a bit confused when people say LICD is mopey. SPZ were always kind of mopey, I mean, didn't LAGWAFIS have "Cool Waves" and "Broken Heart" on it? If it's really about being a downer, musically, then LICD can rock out too -- "The Twelve Steps", "Out of Sight", "On Fire". I think it really comes down to favouring one approach over another -- free jazz/improv squawking and long jams, or full-blown Spector. In terms of lyrical subject matter I don't think LICD is too different than most other SPZ albums, although the lyrics themselves are far better than anything he'd written up to that point.
"Anyway That You Want Me" was my #1. It was partly a sentimental choice -- the first SPZ song I ever heard, and I was completely blown away.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 8 March 2015 07:10 (nine years ago) link
I just don't like Spiritualized v much. In S3 the 'downer songs' it actually leads them v non-rock paths (at times I feel like Revolution is the weakest track on Playing with Fire, although of course its an absolutely brilliant cover).
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was wondering :-)
I Believe it was my #1.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 March 2015 10:59 (nine years ago) link
Revolution is not a cover....?
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Xpost
Yeah, what I miss from early spiritualized is that the downer songs went on some non-rock paths as well; there's a lot of Steve Reich minimalism and new age ambient vibes on LGM. They were starting to shed that style already on Pure Phase, however (perhaps non-coincidentatally related to the departure of Sean Carruthers?).
With regards to LICD, it's my favorite of the post Ladies and Gentlemen albums (sans Sweet Heart Sweet Light, which I admit I haven't given a good listen) because there are some new unusual ideas being thrown around there for a Spiritualized record...I mean "Out of Sight" has seventh chords ffs! My issue with it and with most later Spiritualized is that Pierce's vocals are upfront and unadorned, which really isn't playing to his strengths.
Fun fact: "Anyway that you want me" originally written by Chip Taylor aka James Voight aka Jon Voight's brother.
― klonman, Sunday, 8 March 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkx_lnNrQsM
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link
They were starting to shed that style already on Pure Phase, however (perhaps non-coincidentatally related to the departure of Sean Carruthers?).
Will Carruthers, Jon Mattock, and Mark Refoy (who were all there for the second half of Spacemen 3) were already gone by the time of PP's release.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
(great live version of this)
http://youtu.be/266HkM7LESE
Spacemen 3 - I Believe It - live @ Drummonds, Euston Road (Sonic Boom) - 15.11.88."Actually Jason didn't play at all, Will Carruthers played bass and Sonic played guitar and keyboard. Snippets of Honey and bits of his first solo album. Jason stood at the bar all night with his girlfriend."
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link
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35 - Call The Doctor87 points, 5 voteshttp://youtu.be/mfO45AVQBLE
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link
I'm biased in much of the "which version of Spiritualized?" posturing because I was already on board when LGM first came out. On the whole, I like Spiritualized when Jason can't afford to record as much as he wants.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link
"Call The Doctor" = what comes after "O.D. Catastrophe" irl, love its hushed urgency
― sleeve, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:18 (nine years ago) link
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34 - Come Together99 points, 5 voteshttp://youtu.be/j9G7n8DBpO8
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:30 (nine years ago) link
I'm biased in much of the "which version of Spiritualized?" posturing because I was already on board when LGM first came out.
Me too, although I prefer the '94-'97 version, for me that was the most complete version of the band that could do the most number of things well.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 9 March 2015 09:48 (nine years ago) link
I was going to say those last two are the first to come from my ballot, but I've just checked and I didn't actually vote for Come Together, it must have just missed the cut.
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 9 March 2015 10:10 (nine years ago) link
Yeah yeah i know black to comm still a stretch to call it a cover imo. I mean half the s3 catalog is similar reappropriations but i wouldnt exactly call i love you a cover of mr. Brown, y'know?
Xxp
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
Bardo Pond - Call the Doctor
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Monday, 9 March 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
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33 - Do It All Over Again100 points, 4 voteshttp://youtu.be/ivW_bVUtH9E
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
The best track on LICD, like an All Things Must Pass track
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 March 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
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32 - Electric Mainline102 points, 5 voteshttp://youtu.be/o3IXbJTv_uM
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
peons to the lord
amazing, mine
― 2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord (contenderizer), Monday, 9 March 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
38 - Lord, Can You Hear Me36 - Anyway That You Want Me35 - Call the Doctor
^ TOO LOW
― 2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord (contenderizer), Monday, 9 March 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
and "revolution" is not a "black to comm" cover
"Revolution" is to "Black To Comm" as "Suicide" is to Suicide.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
"Come Together" may be the most overrated SPZ track. There's something very ordinary about it, like it could have been recorded by a hundred other bands.
I didn't expect to see three LICD tracks in the top forty (even if they're all fairly low) ... actually four tracks if you were feeling generous and wanted to tack on "Lord Can You Hear Me", or even five tracks if "Out of Sight" shows up later.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 9 March 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
I assume "Out of Sight" will make it, because this duffer voted for it.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
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ugh yeah, Will Carruthers not Sean Carruthers. Although I like the songwriting better on LGM, the band is really on fire on Pure Phase. That double-time Jam at the end of "Good Times" is something else. It's a sharp contrast to when I saw the band Summer of 2003 and they were awful. They played like they were hungover from a night of doing ecstasy in which nothing of note happened. This was Field Day Fest in a rainy June in Giants stadium. Beck apparently broke his ankle or something dancing to Blur's set and I got spared an hour of mopey Sea Change songs. Elliot Smith played a muffled set in which he forgot a few of his songs halfway through (this was a few months before his death). My jam band friend hated everything except a young My Morning Jacket, which is so completely appropriate. Radiohead headlined and they killed it, which made me all the more disappointed in Spiritualized because I had heard both bands were neck and neck when they were touring together in 1997.
― klonman, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link
waaay to much Spiritualized already, hope this improves soon
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link
totoo
A little something for "Come Together" fans (from 1984): http://youtu.be/X_HxpiD39rA
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link
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31 - An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music104 points, 5 voteshttp://youtu.be/l7-61FEHhAA
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 03:15 (nine years ago) link
my #6 :(
I kinda wore this out back in the day, but it really is more than the sum of its parts
was Fierce a bootleg label?
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 03:48 (nine years ago) link
largely yeah
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 03:58 (nine years ago) link
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30 - Rollercoaster112 points, 5 voteshttp://youtu.be/p-XzevUTKkI
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link
Wow, v eased w "Electric Mainline" placing
Had a v profound moment in college where I was walking listening to it really loud and it was about to rain but it was SO DARK AND GREY but for like several minutes on end and a torrential downpour was so imminent (like you could see it several blocks away) but instead there was just a humid stillness and it took forever to actually start raining and when it did the sky just opened instantly
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link
So weird like being in a dark grey thunderstorm with no rain happening though and just this weird glow everywhere
that folk devils track, lawdy
― gay cat park (disambiguation) (haitch), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 05:05 (nine years ago) link
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29 - If I Were With Her Now116 points, 6 voteshttp://youtu.be/p-XzevUTKkI
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 05:08 (nine years ago) link
imo the short version of "rollercoaster"
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 08:32 (nine years ago) link
never liked Come Together - Folk Devils' connection is weird what's the story there?
Love If I Were With Her Now
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
Spacemen 3 opened up for the Folk Devils early on. Jason is a big fan of them apparently...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link