ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

good local bandcamp discovery - Orchard Thief

this is super meditative am prim stuff, has some earlier album on spotify that are much more ambient/lo-fi mix of electronics and guitar effected stuff (also very good and worth checking out)

http://orchardthief.bandcamp.com/album/guitar-river

does anyone know anything about david lacey, the guy who plays drums on born with the caul? his discogs page is a bunch of stuff i've never heard of http://www.discogs.com/artist/654765-David-Lacey

don't know anything about him -- only name i recognize there is keith rowe from AMM? i do really like his drumming w/ the cosmos, a nice lope you don't hear too much these days.

me too! i've been communing with "double horse" and i tried to play it the other day and it's challenging but also reaaaaaally enjoyable

yeah, i've actually played that song to the drummer in my band and told him to copy the vibe. harder than it seems.

seems to be a matter of control and feel rather than technical expertise afaict

yeah, getting into the "zone," holding back as much as you're diving in.
seems like cian nugent has been making a new record -- maybe a mix of stuff w/ and w/o the cosmos i think?

holding back as much as you're diving in.
otm, like a dance

Have you guys heard this record?

http://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/7746

yeah! it is pretty good - maybe not as fully formed as the stuff he's gone on to do, but well worth checking out if you like him. cool that it is getting a proper release -- I just have mp3s.

i have it, it's more soundscapey than a lot of things he's done. some droney/found sound collage stuff plus acoustic tracks. he re-recorded a song or two here and there- one for sure shows up on the blue ash montgomery release from last year. pretty decent if you're into him but i'd say he's more fully-fleshed out on newer releases?

tyler read my mind

Alright, awesome thanks guys! Been browsing the RSD list... might have to pick up the Giant Sand reissue but all of his records are in the "lingers and gets marked down over time" category of RSD releases.

Giant Sand reissue as well*

not quite on topic for this thread, but the key RSD release is the Hagerty-Toth Band on Three Lobed.

Record Store Day (4/18) ltd. ed. double-LP reissue of Wm. Tyler's Deseret Canyon, T.'s video, streams, tour dates here: http://www.mergerecords.com/william-tyler-deseret-canyon

Yeah we were just discussing that one! I'm definitely going to pick that up.

hey you guys know Reverb.com? It's basically an online site, a used gear marketplace for private sellers and buyers, I guess like Discogs for music gear/guitar/equipment etc?

Anyway I was looking for a DI box for recording stuff and it turns out some of the staffers on the blog there are into solo guitar stuff and they do these cool (and really well recorded) interview/playing sessions! Bachman, Steve Gunn, Kaki King, and Nels Cline

http://reverb.com/blog/reverb-soundcheck-daniel-bachman

http://reverb.com/blog/reverb-soundcheck-steve-gunn

http://reverb.com/blog/mystery-box-challenge-with-nels-cline-and-julian-lage

http://reverb.com/blog/reverb-soundcheck-kaki-king

hey brigade buds

dying for bad music made a "field guide to sarah louise" on soundcloud that i really like, can't remember if she's been mentioned

http://soundcloud.com/dyingforbadmusic/sets/sarah-louise-field-guide-outtakes

i myself am still plagued a bit by this tendonitis which unfortunately may be a part of some larger infllammatory thing going on with me, awaiting some tests & hopefully can get this worked out but worrisome and potentially threatening to my career as America's 1500th best American Primitive Guitarist (TM) :/

bought some phosphor bronze/silk/steel hybrid john pearse strings nic garcia told me could be a little easier on the picking hand...

i dunno, either way i want to record what i have written so worse comes to worse i'll gobble an unhealthy amount of advil for a month and at least get an "album" done for bandcamp

got a squier strat off craigslist this weekend, really nice little guitar, 96 "50th anniversary" some guy fixed up, plays great -- forgot how much easier it is to play electric, hoping this will be easier on me

anyway been moving from audacity to reaper for recording and listening to a lot of crazy horse so i blew off a little steam and jammed out to this thing (tyler should get a kick out of the song title at least)....my little dinky offbrand version of solar motel chris forsyth :) was fun to play lead, hadn't in ages

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/honey-slides

sorry to hear about the ongoing tendonitis issues, dude!
"honey slides" sounds nice and shakey.
need to check out more of the sarah louise stuff, sounds good. actually just saw that she wrote me an email a few months back and i ignored it! what a jerk. i get a lot of emails.

and while i'm here, i'll reiterate that the last richard bishop album (tangier sessions) is totally amazing.

Gonna see him soon!

^ gonna be at that

saw him open for swans once, i think it was good, but i wasn't really in a place to 'get' that sort of playing so excited to have a second chance to see him

and while i'm here, i'll reiterate that the last richard bishop album (tangier sessions) is totally amazing.

― tylerw, Monday, March 16, 2015 6:13 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh! I happened to pick this up on Saturday! Still have to listen to it but I loved the tracks I had already heard. He was amazing live last year in Jersey City.

another thing I absolutely need :(

and if you're out there ogmor- the volk guitar playlist on spotify is the best playlist on spotify.

found so much good stuff on there.

http://open.spotify.com/user/ogmor/playlist/6YJVAWIuy5Xk2wBtbI4zj3

thanks! I enjoyed spending a bit of time putting it together, it's quite a mix so I'm pleased if you think it works. any particular favourites?

I really enjoy the Lou Harrison stuff, Jim McAuley, and Leo Brouwer. It is quite a variety but I think it all 'works' pretty well. I tend to put it on shuffle when I listen and always come across something great. Also the Indonesian Guitars track...

Posted this on the obit thread too but RIP Sam Charters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/19/arts/music/samuel-charters-foundational-scholar-of-the-blues-dies-at-85.html

RIP!

seems like he had a great life, in the midst of the blues revival in NY, going off on sojourns to new orleans or the bahamas to stumble across people like gus cannon and joseph spence. his mythologizing liner notes & fahey's satire thereof were a golden era of highbrow writing about popular music, and there's something I find quite appealing in the relationship between the two of them

yeah, coincidentally i'm re-reading how bluegrass destroyed my life and I've been thinking a lot about the collectors who went off in search of the blues musicians. The Mountains of Projection! Pyramids Along The Mississippi!
Steve Lowenthal posted the complete transcript of his talk w/ Charters (conducted for the Fahey bio) over here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153260938708738&set=a.135788958737.110665.726613737&type=1
Some good stuff!

seconded on volk guitar playlist, it's a nice expression of your personal aesthetics ogmor

where is grandavis lately? miss that guy

Hah good timing UMS, was just catching up here. It has been a brutal couple of weeks work-wise and I have been lagging behind on all kinds of things. Hope your hand is doing alright, but playing electric is maybe a good diversion in the meantime. Maybe it will lead to some breakthroughs when you can get back in the saddle with the acoustic? Mixing it up can be good for the brain.

And yeah, Ogmor's volk playlist is great, as is his thread of videos that he updates now and again.

And thanks man, I definitely miss the conversations here too when I get pulled away for a while.

glad you're well!

arm's doing ok...taking it slow, doc gave me some steroids to see if that helps.

ogmor - particularly curious about Grup Bamba Puang? off and Indonesian comp? really amazing playing and seems to be a real synthesis of western folk and Indonesion tonalities?? obv interested in how that all came about, probably something to do w/colonialism as is often the case

The Ryley Walker "Primrose Green" moment is here. Checking this NYCTaper set out now, and it is sounding pretty sweet:

https://soundcloud.com/acidjacknyc/sets/ryley-walker-live-at-babys-all-right-brooklyn-2015-03-15

Haven't checked it yet, but the album is now up for streaming at NPR. Probably this year's "Way Out Weather" in regards to critical reception/appraisal.

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/22/393818941/first-listen-ryley-walker-primrose-green

Also, not to dig too deeply into this kinda thing, but I find it interesting that Paul Sukeena dropped outta the Solar Motel touring band only to join the Steve Gunn touring band a short time later. Not a bad trajectory, and a good player. Still, guess this counts as some kind of news in this thread.

Oh shit, Jason Ajemian (Born Heller with Josephine Foster, occasional Hush Arbors accompanist, as wekk as tons of his own great shit) is playing bass on that live set. Very cool, Jason is the best.

yeah always kinda felt that ryley might be the most "marketable" of all the new crew....and that's not meant as snark, just that he seems to have a big personality, writes really strong songs and -- unlike most -- is much more in the vocal-based singer-songwriter vein

yeah he is really more in line w/ what, say, hiss golden messenger is doing than a lot of the people in this thread. in fact, i was playing his new one recently and someone who i *know* has several DMB albums in his collection said "hey who is this, this is cool."(not a diss, i love both of ryley's albums).

i mean, Wm. Tyler's probably the more marketable end too, but i did get the sense that merge are good peeps and liked him because he was good but maybe didn't know what to do with him in a sense? instrumental stuff just seems to be a bit limited, i guess like maybe some 90s post rock stuff like Tortoise, Godspeed, etc got to a pretty big stage but it seems tougher overall w/o vox

not sure if i buy some of this, but it was kind of an interesting piece on instrumental music's lack of popularity in the US
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/features/why_americans_hate_instrumental_music.html

blargh that's ridiculous
music that is able to communicate feeling without words is the best
words are for birds

interesting stuff in there but this is bullshit:

"Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate rap for what it is, but it does not promote the full development of musical ears. If a song truly has musical substance it can be played in a purely instrumental fashion whether by solo piano or guitar, to a woodwind quintet, or all the way up to a full orchestra) and we would still be able to recognize the piece and be able to enjoy it (or loathe it if we didn't care for it in the first place). "

yeah that's where it gets into the sort of thing you'd expect from a website called "ultimateguitar"...

haha yep. i used to read their forums off and on for some reason and they were execrable

he's also ignoring the popularity of dance and EDM music which obv sometimes has vocals but is far more an istrumental genre

though i agree w/la lechera, i'm more and more drawn to instrumental music

also in terms of being a performer it's like go instrumental and you've just cut your chance of embarassing yourself by like 60 percent, easy :)

Hah hah I am not going to read that piece at all. Now, one questions I AM intersted in understanding is why so many people I know seem to have a lot of time for experimental (or at least slightly weird/off/"out there" whatever) films and TV, abstract and conceptual visual art, and similar types of literature but listen to practically zero similarly challenging musicians, instrumental or otherwise?