It was a good Girls ep. Liked Fran too-- nice curveball, turned out to be a perfectly good date. Actually one interesting and unusual thing about this show is that the guest characters are often (intentionally depicted as) more likable than the main characters.
Jessa's an especially awful person this season, isn't she.
It's interesting how unlikability (antipathy) and likability (empathy)-- often leaning to the former-- are so intricately threaded in the characters on Girls, not just from ep to ep but line to line, moment to moment. An experience well-illustrated by Hannah's dizzied reaction to Mimi-Lee (full of shit & manipulative/ self-aware & sweet/ both at once?).
― drash, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Jessa is just straight up evil at this stage. I dont know where her character is going.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
what's with this btw? is this an NY thing we're not privy to?
http://40.media.tumblr.com/0f28f79e2b78baab4b6af49bab36335e/tumblr_nkkdqpJafw1smuhzqo1_1280.jpg
― piscesx, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
douchebaggery
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
just more contrived bullshit tbh
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
i've never seen him as anything but Spock and i'm not sure i'd have even recognised him tbh.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
it's quinto right? or isn't it? honestly wasn't sure
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
it's insane that people are Looking-bashing in here, this season > the current season of Girls and certainly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Togetherness, did you guys all give up after a couple early episodes or what?
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
^
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
seriously gtfo with Togetherness, it's Sundance Jury Prize: The Series.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Simon H OTM with both his ranking of HBO's Sunday night ennui series and also with his hatred of Togetherness
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
I like Looking. Probably “care” more about those characters than any in the other two shows.
In part because, when I watch Looking, I experience the characters as the characters. When I watch the other two, I too often see primarily the actors playing the characters, laboriously acting out a script, the seams of which I notice.
And I don’t think this is due to a genre difference in realism or whatever; when I watch e.g. Broad City or Sunny in Philadelphia, I also primarily experience and enjoy those characters as the characters. This is particularly a problem with Looking for me, “Sundance Jury Prize” otm.
― drash, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
edit: particularly a problem with Togetherness for me
― drash, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
not a problem for me, but maybe cuz I was totally unfamiliar with all the actors in Togetherness (apart from the Heavenly Creatures gal)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
True, might have something to do with familiarity with the actors in Togetherness and off-screen celeb personae of the actors in Girls. But I don't think it's just that (for me).
― drash, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Best episode of the series I think. I hope they keep Mimi-Rose around. She has the right likable/annoying balance that the others lost a long time ago, although this is the first time in ages that I've really rooted for Hannah. Ace is a fine addition to the show's long tradition of absurd, posturing douchebags.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
yeah Desi, Booth Jonathon, whatever Richard E. Grant's character was named. Adam, to some extent
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
I had a date with a gay homosexual last night and we discussed Looking to great length; he told me to stick around and that It Gets Better in season 2. I mean I came in with a lot of v specific expectations informed by my direct exp w/ gay culture so to someone who doesn't have my partic experience I'm sure they're a lot less intolerant of the show, so like I respect other ppl liking it tbh
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
black sails just did a SURPRISE YOUR LEAD CHARACTER IS MOTIVATED BY HIS LOVE FOR A MAN thing that was super well handled but i'm wondering how it's playing with gay homosexuals and non gay homosexuals
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
more on that btw: http://decider.com/2015/02/22/toby-stephens-black-sails-gay-flint/
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
@lenadunham Watched Citizen Four. Incredible, essential film. Takeaway is weshould all come up with cute funny internet code names for ourfriends?
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
can't tell if stevie's post is a piss take or not
― akm, Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
lol not at all
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
it just started airing during a period that I was really fucking jaded and fed up w/ a lot of bullshit and was hoping this would subvert these things instead of perpetuating them but I was wrong
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
i don't think there is any nationally aired subversive gay television programming and maybe not since pee wee's playhouse?
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah idk if there is either which is why I was like "oh wow it's a show abt gay millenials, maybe this will be really critical and thought provoking!", like I feel like Girls has a lot of commentary abt its characters and its characters' generation and demographic and all of that and Looking does not
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
it's much more implicit yes.worth noting: one of the executive producers of looking is the chief creative officer for archie comicshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Aguirre-Sacasa
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
okay just watched 5 episodes of Looking in a row, just finished season 1, actually am kind of liking it
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 March 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link
now you're gonna make me go back to season 1when you get to the funeral episode in season 2, let's see if you're with me
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 March 2015 06:15 (nine years ago) link
halfway through the most recent episode, mimi rose seems similar to the main characters just better at it
― Treeship, Monday, 9 March 2015 02:13 (nine years ago) link
this ep was prob the best of the season imo, tho if someone critiques dad tad's coming out as gimmicky id not disagree
― johnny crunch, Monday, 9 March 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link
if we're still talking about togetherness, i just watched episode 4. the sex scene is so sad.
― Treeship, Monday, 9 March 2015 03:17 (nine years ago) link
ok shosh still killing it.
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Monday, 9 March 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
"Fucking Marnie?!"
― schwantz, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link
there are scenes in togetherness that are underplayed but just. devastating. the sex scene is one.
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Monday, 9 March 2015 08:54 (nine years ago) link
Holy shiiieeeeeet what a great episode!
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link
I was laughing so hard at/with Mom laughing so hard
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 00:48 (nine years ago) link
thought this was a really great episode. best of the season easily. just when i was starting to feel a little bit fed-up with girls too.
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link
Shosh is like the only one resembling a sympathetic human being at this point. Idk why i'm still watching this tbh, it's so scattershot. Dad coming out was ridiculously contrived altho it was nice to see sy ableman again.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link
Elijah said Hannah's dad was gay back in Season 1
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
deadbeat desi is the worst best thing
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link
also Jason Ritter is my guilty pleasure total normcore crush
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
wasn't there foreshadowing of the dad coming out in the episode where he visited hannah in iowa?
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 09:24 (nine years ago) link
This was like a season's worth of jokes in one episode. It was a quickfire sitcom spliced with a Woody Allen sex farce. Favourite bit was when Hannah gives the bemused teacher her theory about why he's scared to date her. "It's the new misogyny… and I'm up for that!" Also, Shosh's misfiring dirty talk.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link
could NOT watch the frenulum piercing scene and it really aggravated me tbh. right up there with the dentist and chopping up the body scenes in the american for WOAH I CANNOT WATCH THISness. also as this seems to be where we are discussing it, last episode of togetherness was just amazing/painful.
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 09:51 (nine years ago) link
i thought the last episode of togetherness was the worst one of the run.
girls, on the other hand, was excellent, one of the best episodes of the series. the piercing looked real; was it?
― akm, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
yeah so did I - the whole will they/won't they with the charter school guy, c'mon we all knew they were going to
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
i don't think it was 'will they' as much as 'when will they'
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Also, Shosh's misfiring dirty talk.
"slimy vagina" was v lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
like a deli pickle
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link