http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/superboy/169-14.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link
http://superdickery.tumblr.com/
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
Superbly is kind of a clumsy oaf
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/3664/251242-19154-119470-1-superboy.jpg
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:43 (nine years ago) link
okay, that one is a literal LOL, what the teetotal fuck
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.evtrib.com/nerdvana/files/2013/07/Superboy167.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link
they did a superboy wolfpack cover TWICEhttp://www.newkadia.com/Covers/L/S/Superboy%201949%20series/superboy1949series116.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:48 (nine years ago) link
i can't evenhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/foldedsoup/Blog/AC_0251_web.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
tbf that's a shop of coursehttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130323010351/marvel_dc/images/3/39/Adventure_Comics_251.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link
Synopsis for "Superboy's First Mission"At a time in which Superboy has received his costume, but has still not received parental permission to start his Superboy career, the Kents pay a visit to the Crowleys, who have bought their old farm. Unknown to them, the Crowleys are nuclear scientists who are being held prisoner by a spy named Lobko, who is in search of their energy pills. Clark becomes Superboy and frees the Crowleys, but they are struck by flying concrete and later believe the “flying boy” they saw was a dream. Lobko takes one of the pills and disintegrates. When Superboy later refuses to tell his parents about the nuclear secrets he discovered in the case, Jonathan Kent judges him worthy of becoming Superboy.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
https://goo.gl/maps/viQ7i
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
Also, sorry derail derail http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090108155134/marvel_dc/images/5/5d/Animal_Man_Vol_1_39.jpg
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/green-lantern-1960/71-1.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
The thing that's such a drag is that I'm 95% sure all of these comics would be boring as hell to read, at least based on my experience with random old Legion comics with similarly batshit premises. Like, the pencils and the layouts and the script never goes half as far into batshit territory as those great covers. The latter, though... I mean, I'd get a poster of that one with the blind guy.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:02 (nine years ago) link
That Neal Adams car crash cover is beautiful
― I don't even OWN a Television album (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 02:16 (nine years ago) link
I love the subtle ableism in this one: "Of course someone with normal eyesight could stop a tornado, but how can a blind person do it?! Read to find out!"
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 07:52 (nine years ago) link
Good old skool ILC thread this.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
THIS is the "your power cannot save them" cover that i couldn't quite remember and it's a doozy
http://https%3A//comiclists.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/heroes-against-hunger.jpg
with a special Stephen King writer credit iirc
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
http://comiclists.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/heroes-against-hunger.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
if we wanted to keep going on the LOL DC Covers, there's the treasure trove of Lois Lane, which vacillates between bondage and... well, there's a lot of bondagehttp://www.comicbookdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ll73cover.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
http://bargaincomicreviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lois_lane_1331.jpghttp://www.comics101.com/guestlecturer//images/view.php%3Fsrc%3D../news/Guest%20Lecturer/64/11lois.jpg%26w%3Dhttp://www.comicbookbrain.com/_imagery/2014-09-03/lois-lane-129-cover-bob-oksner.jpghttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081220201926/marvel_dc/images/7/70/Lois_Lane_122.jpghttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081220201822/marvel_dc/images/c/cd/Lois_Lane_120.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
dying @ the lady is a bomb!
― hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
oh man how did I forget that Heroes Against Hunger cover
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Batman just standing there doing fuck all.
― 0xFE Shades of Grey (snoball), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
somehow i missed this era of Lois Lane bondage covers
― Nhex, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
take it to the Lois Lane Bondage thread guys
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
okay, here's the best of them imohttp://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/102-1.jpg
"when you're dead, you're dead!"
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/112-1.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/135-1.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/88-1.jpg
the dog
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I love that there is a least three batshit things about every cover. No single-issue batshittery here.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
To redress slightly, I think these are all fucking great.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081229160125/marvel_dc/images/c/c0/Superman_v.1_417.jpghttp://clzimages.com/comic/large/1a/1a_2796_0_ActionComics571MissiontoEarth.jpghttp://covers.cbrd.info/86faedcb61befc19ee3df59584839ce2_l.jpg
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
And
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081229155858/marvel_dc/images/0/04/Superman_v.1_410.jpg
Superman 422 is very much all time.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
loving all the DC batshit but yeah maybe should be its own thread, i do love the idea of being able to open this one up on days when i'm feeling cocky with all my amazing powers, getting some perspective, all that
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
And what might your amazing powers be, Doctor Casino?
― 0xFE Shades of Grey (snoball), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
this thread has just turned into Po-Faced #3 is all
The Po-Faced Absurdity of DC Comics (picture thread)Po-Faced Absurdity of DC Comics, Part 2: Son of Po-Face
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah that wasn't really what I was going for - it's not like the title trope is unique to DC
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
as evidenced by the v first post
it happened organically
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
for all our powers, we couldn't keep the thread on topic
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
https://themiddlespaces.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/putthingsright-asm70.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/thor/256-1.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
this one is only four issues later
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/thor/260-1.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
awesome
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051107154935/marveldatabase/images/5/59/Tales_to_Astonish_Vol_1_75.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
seems characteristic of Marvel to go the more self-absorbed route:http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/pasttreasures/items/360646/catphoto.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
i think these final panels from daredevil 7 by lee and wood are an interesting variation or inversion of the kind of the thing this thread is getting at - ie what 'value' are superpowers - or, for what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul etc etc. stan is telling his readers, hey kids, courage and determination are more important than any silly superpower.
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Panel-2.JPG
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
I can't get over the kitschy bad-taste of that Heroes Against Hunger cover. did that 'marvel superheros react to 9/11' book have one of these?
― soref, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
they had crying911doom.jpeghttp://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/doom-crying.jpg
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
stay on topic here kids (Marvel had Heroes for Hope - which was just as bad in content, altho the cover was standard "Wolverine is a badass" nonsense)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
what 'value' are superpowers - or, for what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul
tbh I was thinking of it more in a Greek-tragedy sort of context, ie you are fucked no matter what you do or how badass you think you are, the universe is a merciless clockwork and you are just a pawn
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
"Not all my power can save..." is such a weird (and repeated!) construction compared to "All my powers cannot save..."
Not to be prosaic and such
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
The Kyle Richmond/Defenders Nighthawk is an interesting character in that he is a bit of a loser. He wants so bad to be a hero and the "leader" so bad and really just does not have it down. I know one of the endings of the Defenders is that everybody quits and he cannot get anyone to rejoin with him. I can't remember when that story happened, it might have been a newer one.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link
That character died at the end of Gruenwald's original Squadron Supreme miniseries. I don't know how Marvel brought him back, but I'm sure it was stupid.
― morrisp, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link
it was.
grim and gritty:http://i.imgur.com/B7gfq2d.png
gave way to grim and grittier:http://i.imgur.com/BLhnnhx.png
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link
Sometimes I think Marvel went roughly 40 years w out making a decent comic. I kinda hate everything between 1980 and Immortal Hulk.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link
I found the JMS super-gritty Supreme Power comics to be pretty amusing actually
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link
The Nighthawk who was a Defenders member was from Squadron Sinister, not Squadron Supreme. Squadron Sinister was introduced first by Roy Thomas as an parallel universe evil version of JLA, and later on he decided to create a heroic parallel universe version of them called Squadron Supreme. But Squadron Supreme mostly stayed in their universe (until it was destroyed), while the evil Nighthawk stayed in ours, reformed and joined the Defenders. He actually died before the Squadron Supreme Nighthawk, who impersonated him for a short while. I can't blame anyone for getting confused by all this.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:11 (four years ago) link
Was Squadron Supreme an influence on the original Watchmen series?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:15 (four years ago) link
The 1970s version? No. The 1985 version, published after the earliest Watchmen promotional material? Also no.
(possibly very very faintly inasmuch as they were an earlier example of filing the serial numbers off a bunch of characters, but Moore very obviously had the examples of Kurtzman and Anglo imprinted on his creative psyche before Roy Thomas even entered comics.)
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link
I was thinking more along the lines of "We are the heroes! But are we? Or are we fascists?" plotline, but it's been a decade since I last read Watchmen, and probably two or more since I read Squadron Supreme.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
we have a thread for thatSquadron Supreme (Mark Gruenwald) - C or D?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link
xxxxp Thx, Tuomas -- I missed that distinction
stevie -- besides my great Squadron Supreme thread (thx, ulysses!), see also Alan Moore's comments in this 1987 interview:
MOORE: I think that when Watchmen was first announced everybody assumed that it was going to be Squadron Supreme, the superheroes take over. We never said that. We said that we were going to try to treat them realistically. (...) I think that while people expected that, we’ve not investigated the idea of superheroes as fascists the same way that Frank Miller has in Dark Knight, or the same thing they’ve done in Squadron Supreme. It wasn’t really our intention. Our intention was to show how superheroes could deform the world just by being there, not that they’d have to take it over, just their presence there would make the difference. It’s what we try to show in Watchmen #4. From the point where Dr. Manhattan appears, it slowly starts to go downhill from there — everything starts to change. He doesn’t take over the country or make people subservient to him, but just his presence there makes everything begin to change. Yet on another level, if you equate Dr. Manhattan with the atom bomb, the atom bomb doesn’t take over the world, but by being there it changes everything. That was more the idea that I was trying to explore. (...)
― morrisp, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
Ah! Thanks Morrisp... Reread that thread this afternoon and your overview of the series reminded me why I've never reread SS. Watchmen is definitely an infinitely subtler and more effective book.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
also that thread gets kind of steamy towards the end, doesn't it?
"Towards the end"? Nothing ends, stevie. Nothing ever ends.
― morrisp, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link
SAD BUT TRUE
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
Also - I’ll grant you that Watchmen is “subtler,” but I think Squadron Supreme has a brute “effectiveness” of its own. It’s like saying you prefer, I dunno, Solaris* for being “infinitely subtler” than Alien... I’d rather watch Alien!(*NB - I’ve never actually seen Solaris)
― morrisp, Thursday, 2 April 2020 06:22 (four years ago) link
tbh all i remember clearly of SS is how Tom Thumb's death is announced in a little black panel at the very bottom of the page!
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 2 April 2020 07:58 (four years ago) link