Prefab Sprout: Classic Or Dud

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cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Funnily enough, I think they do exist - ie the great lost PS concept lps - it's just he only wants them to come out after he's dead. It would be a typically McAloon touch.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just want an acoustic Paddy album. Him and a guitar, his songs, no eurovision production. Errr -demos, I suppose. Think "Dublin" off Protest Songs.

Oh, and Classic, if only for Steve McQueen.

David Nolan (David N.), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i always think of prefab sprout when i listen to the judybats, they are a pop band from the southern US but they made the same sort of dramatic, polished, adult pop as prefab sprout. the singer was playing a role, much like paddy did in a lot of his songs, and the judybats singer was pretty fantastic. they aren't quite as polished as prefab and definitely more guitar based but i think they share a bit of the same shared collective consciousness musically and lyrically. maybe.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 12 March 2004 02:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Funnily enough, I think they do exist - ie the great lost PS concept lps - it's just he only wants them to come out after he's dead. It would be a typically McAloon touch.

hmm, i doubt this, in fact. If they did exist he would have released some "songs" rather than putting out "i trawl the megahertz". it seems to have more than a little of the Truman capote/answered prayers about it.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"This is a man who records concept albums in his spare time, just as a hobby"

I am touched by JtN's new obsession.

Just thinking about the music to Bonny makes me a bit teary.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 12 March 2004 09:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I seem to recall the title "I Trawl The Megahertz" being mentioned in connection with one of these lost albums years ago....

Personally I think the albums do exist. I certainly want to think they do.

Probably not as completed, polished recordings; maybe not even as completed songs; but certainly as fragments of tunes and lyrics like bits of jigsaws; some may be just a couple of bits of sky that wouldn't mean anything to anyone other than Paddy; others may be substantially complete apart from a last couple of elusive missing pieces to be located and slotted into place.

I'm sure Thomas Dolby's mentioned mentioned that Paddy's got shelves and shelves and cupboards full of tapes - but again I suspect sifting through them all to sort out the useable fragments would be a dauntingly gargantuan task for anyone to undertake.

Maybe that's why Paddy hasn't done it himself.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 March 2004 09:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Just rebought Jordan after not having heard it for 10 years or more. Glad to say it totally stands up and is wonderful. Love most of the rest of their stuff too although The King Of Rock n Roll, their big hit I can do without. I never really grasped hold of the Gunman, it felt odd as though it wasn't a proper PS album. Seemed to disappear the moment it was released and I never see it in the shops anywhere. The version I have is a promo. Andromeda Heights has some lovely songs but as mentioned elsewhere suffers from saxamaphone overload.

As far as I know Paddy had an operation that fixed his sight problems so hopefully he's back to full vision and we'll get a new PS album.

mms (mms), Friday, 12 March 2004 10:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nothing worthwhile to say but I think he actually looks kinda fantastic in that photo

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 12 March 2004 10:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A Megahertz preview article (in the Scotsman, I think) mentioned a 'new Prefab Sprout album later this year'. Which was, er, last year. It did seem a little fanciful.

I've heard tell of people who've listened to bits of 'Earth: The Story So Far' etc., which suggests some of these lost albums (or parts thereof) have been recorded. Also, bits of 'Zorro the Fox' are apparently on Andromeda Heights.

Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Friday, 12 March 2004 10:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm with David, classic.

eleki-san (eleki-san), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Swans was from Zorro The Fox apparently

mms (mms), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am touched by N's new touchiness.

the bellefox, Friday, 12 March 2004 13:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am not touchy.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Are you feely?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am not touchy

Have you spoken to A-ha about this?

Me I'm touchy
Touchy touchy you
Me I'm touchy and you know what to do

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Imagine: if Prefab Sprout had written, or recorded, 'Bachelor Kisses'!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Except -- then, the Go-Betweens' output would be so much diminished in quality?

the bluefox, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I did, as I said I would, listen to the 2CD best-of back in March. My position remains the same - I like the *idea* of Paddy Mac, I want to like them, I occasionally think I *do* like them, then it turns out that I've lost interest and 5 tracks have gone by unnoticed.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Like the Go-Betweens!!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What for you? Or for me?

I heard Spring Rain in a recd shop the other day and it sounded fucking excellent. I was prob wrong about the GBs, but it may be too late.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
As a matter of interest, is anyone particularly attracted to or put off by the 412 chord-changes-per-song shtick ("Hallelujah" being an example)?

, Thursday, 17 June 2004 07:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I have not counted them.

the junefox, Thursday, 17 June 2004 07:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ending a dj set by putting on "I trawl the megaherz" 20 minutes before closing time = classic!

And Prefab Sprout are the third best band ever.

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok i'll bite, I'm bored enough: Who's #1 & #2, IYO?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"you surely are a truly gifted kid, but youre only as good as the last great thing you did/ where've you been since then? did the schedule get you down?/ i hear you got a new girlfriend, how's your wife takin it?"

etc.

classic-o no fckng danger.

piscesboy, Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Godfuckingdammit--

I came to this board about one month too late for this thread's last revival. (Yes, I am one of those dreaded "newbies" who have come to the ILM, much like the Visigoths came to Rome to sample the wine and women, only to have ruined it. Thank you! I'll be here all this week!)

In any event I let the drummer in my band check out Protest Songs and Jordan since he already had Two Wheels Good (ahem, 'Steve McQueen' there's my gaucheness again) and I sat down and listened to them last night and I cried because some mf'er stole my copy of Swoon a couple of months ago. So I give'em a classic. But I'm afraid to listen to anything after Jordan. Should I be scared?

righteousmaelstrom, Saturday, 21 August 2004 03:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

So yer a newbie yeah? Well, that means *I* must finally be converted from a "newbie" to an "oldie". I've only been here since April, but I have remained faithful to my credit. Cheers, welcome, et al.

Prefab stuff is great. One day I'll get back round to them. Last I remember I was playing something new by them on the radio in the early 90's. I'll get back to them eventually.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 21 August 2004 06:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

what's '...the megahertz' actually like? i don't mean how good is it, i mean what is it *like*? how does it go?

piscesboy, Saturday, 21 August 2004 07:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's swoopy-stringed Gershwiny classicism with samples of people phoning up late night radio advice lines larded throughout. And yet it's really quite good! I was very confused to hear it used as background music on one of those "we make up young people to look like old people so they can discover just how miserable it is to be old" programs on Channel 4 last week.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 August 2004 11:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

and then about 2/3rds of the way through it Paddy comes in with one of the most beautiful songs he has ever written "I'm 45". heartbreaking.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"I'm 49" it's actually called.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is the record out?

the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 10:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I have been listening to 'Cars & Girls', the song. JtN gave it to me, a while ago.

It has impressed me anew. I like the opening drum sound; I'm OK with the pop tune sound that follows. I like the expanse of the verses. The lyrics impress me - 'Will heaven wait / All heavenly'? And teh whole driving as life metaphor is very well extended.

I once said to JtN that it was unfair to write an attack on the Boss. But JtN immediately pointed out that PMacAloon was singing 'Bruce's thoughts / pretty streamers / guess this world needs its dreamers / may they never wake up' -- and now I hear the generosity, from one songwriter to another.

the bellefox, Friday, 24 September 2004 15:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I do not write 'teh' deliberately.

the bossfox, Friday, 24 September 2004 15:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Does anyone know what's happened to the Prefab Sprout website?

The old address http://www.prefabsprout.com/ isn't working.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Apparently, Paddy is no longer working with Kitchenware, who owned the website.

In other news: has anyone heard Lisa Stansfield's Trevor Horn-produced version of 'When Love Breaks Down' (with specially commissioned from Paddy Mac extra verse)?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wtf! off to slsk i go...

pete b. (pete b.), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Anyway...Paddy's eyes are ok now.

Ego, Friday, 7 January 2005 01:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Forget the new Cole Porter - the question is, who's the new Lloyd Cole?
-- the pinefox (pinefo...), April 27th, 2001.
they influenced everyone
"you don't love me " was covered by kylie minogue on her "confide in me " single
who was the old Lloyd Cole ?

minogue fan, Friday, 7 January 2005 01:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

""you don't love me " was covered by kylie minogue on her "confide in me " single"

I'd like to hear that.

Shame she didn't chose to cover "Couldn't Bear To Be Special" 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'd also *love* to hear that, assuming you're talking about 'If You Don't Love Me'. I had no idea. It's a wonderful, wonderful song.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Putting my Prefab reservations to one side for the moment.....yes, it is a fantastic song.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 January 2005 11:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Gosh, I think that's my favorite Pinefox post ever (the one in which he does not write 'teh' deliberately) -- well, second to the one on Joyce.

youn, Friday, 7 January 2005 11:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'ever' doesn't make sense there.

youn, Friday, 7 January 2005 11:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
In other news: has anyone heard Lisa Stansfield's Trevor Horn-produced version of 'When Love Breaks Down' (with specially commissioned from Paddy Mac extra verse)?

No! And?

I must admit, despite my misgivings prior to hearing any of it, the Andromeda songs on the 2-CD comp are very pillowy — particularly the title track. Any thoughts on that or the Lipson-produced unreleased songs on the first disc?

Also, Jordan deserves its own thread.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jordan must have it's own thread!

piscesboy, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Indeed, a Alex In NYC-style "Its Own Thread". The problem? I can't find my copy anywhere...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I ended up with a copy of "Swoon" and "Two Wheels Good" back when they came out. I must have been reading some really great press. I was too young at the time to appreciate the word play (12 or 13), but I ended up revisiting PS over the past year, and I've really fallen in love with the songs, especially the highlights on "Steve McQueen" and "Jordan."

I can't for the life of me get anyone else I know to care. They can't get past the production and synth sounds. I don't get bothered by it one bit.

I have to say classic just because of those highpoints (up to and including "Jordan.")

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, if only for "We let the stars go" alone.

Kylie's version of "If you don't love me" is spine-tingling, and possibly even better better than the original

brittle-lemon, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


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