Faith No More: most underrated rock band of the 90s?

no i love the outro

disappointing to see that Jim Martin's not back...

Never gonna happen.

interesting song. it sounds very nu-metal to me (except for the keys)... but then, I guess they'd sort of pioneered that sound.

what happened to Jim that it's never gonna happen?

He now lives in Castro Valley, California, with his wife, son, and daughter. He has gained fame in recent years for his non-musical endeavors in championship pumpkin growing.

There's a great 3-minute song in "Superhero" but no reason for it to meander on for over 5.

Yeah, seriously. I kept waiting for the cool suprise breakdown parts that FNM arrangements usually offer, but nope. Not bad, but doesn't justify the length and repetition. Might work better in context.

it's a really good album

i saw jim martin and mike patton share a stage... when patton was watching martin play with infectious grooves at orion (rip)

i was there B)

RIGHT NEXT TO ME

I dunno if pining for Jim is really the move anyway since, w/ King for a Day and Album of the Year their entire sound got streamlined, and sleeker and more eccentric and less "metal" and even less macho to some extent

They're probably the type of guys that would value growing as a band than pulling an INDIE CINDY and stopping by with more of the same shit; and thus would necessitate Hudson in the fold. Their setlists have been leaning towards KFaD stuff any way, and that album def "holds up" the best of their entire catalog, nearly 20 years later.

Basically, they moved on and so should you, imho

agree

Though it's true that it makes Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey historically inaccurate

It couldn't maintain its airtight consistency forever.

Jim shreds but Whiney basically otm..."it's over man, let him go"

Their setlists have been leaning towards KFaD stuff any way, and that album def "holds up" the best of their entire catalog, nearly 20 years later.

I like many prefer Angel Dust, but Martin had very little input into the creative direction of that album by all accounts.

wow i can't believe i just learned about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d17UkOTIwyg

listened to their whole discog for a live review once, thought they were overrated if anything =\

you're wrong but it's ok

it always struck me that the production on their albums weren't as good or as appropriate as they could have been.

like it did them a disservice more often than not

the last time i saw fnm before the reunion they played brixton academy with sparks as support, and brought them back on to play this town... as the encore. they were better that night than they'd been since the angel dust tour.

whoahey! it's maura!

Blatant self-promo, etc, but my Faith No More feature is in the new issue of MOJO, the one with Fleetwood Mac on the cover (which is a great, great piece as well). Buy it, magazines smell nice.
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11350981_1609890965916481_969707631_n.jpg

:D

does anyone understand the ire between patton and the chilis? from the mr. bungle set where they make the "hAPPY herroween" joke to neil hamburger opening for FNM and taking the piss out of RHCP - anyone get it?

guess he kicked them off a bill, but seems like patton took it pretty hard, including covering them in a mock fashion

As I understand it, Anthony Kiedis wasn't too thrilled when he saw the video to 'Epic' (he felt Patton was copping his look, moves and vocal style) and nor was he too thrilled about Mr Bungle putting out an album called California at the same time as Californication was out. Mr Bungle ended up getting kicked off a lot of festivals and subsequently found out that the reason why was Kiedis had threatened to pull RHCP from the line-ups if Mr Bungle played. Patton and co. were obviously furious, and I'm sure this is what actually led to the Halloween RHCP piss-take gig.

Story I heard was that Bungle came up with the name Californication, Keidis was told it by one of the band or something and nicked it for the Chilis album, so Bungle had to call theirs the much more boring California. Read that on the internet ages ago so may be misremembered/totally inaccurate.

Patton hates the Chillis because he has ears and a brain

I don't think I had any concept of this feud when it was first popping off. Didn't read those interviews in Kerrang or whatever. But this quote is great.

I'd really like to set all that straight. What he doesn't realize is that I am Anthony Kiedis, and I'm the raddest dude. Let me tell you, I'm in the greatest band, and it's so cool. But all these jerks, one of which is that Mike Patton asshole, all want to be me. So I'm gonna get him, and I'm gonna get him good. - Mike Patton 1990

I sure hope that Bungle didn't want to name California Californication, because Californication is one of the stupidest words I've ever heard.

Thanks for all the great info

The real early video of one of Faith No More's first performances of Epic (@4:15) is a lil Keidisy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv1gzId2Fk

Also, I love Chuck, but I do always like when Patton does "Crab Song"

I love Chuck but I think p much all Patton's versions of Chuck songs beat the originals. Chuck was never really a singer, by his own admission.

Anne's Song is still probs my favourite FNM song though, and no one else should ever sing it.

Since we're posting videos, this is def my favorite FNM live clip. Love the post-reunion feel of a tight 4-piece with Patton kind of soloing like a jazz musician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1x_4keMigs