The Irish

Lies! I was just 5 hours ago looking at a packet of them in the wee Spar in Dublin Airport Terminal 2

nah you'd want to get rid of the purple snack for that level of outrage

pink snack is more like...that time the Journal made a completely terrible list ranking biscuits available in Ireland

could be the last of the old stock? like those TK lollipops that were phased out everywhere yet you could always get them in that Centra off Cathal Brugha St until at least 2009

xp (surely in the fullness of time to become an interpretative centre itself)

http://www.donegalnow.com/article/9972

It was bad enough reducing the fingers from three to two, but now a Dublin man has begun a campaign.

oi

He has suddenly got geat support from all over Ireland, including Donegal

He has suddenly got geat support from all over Ireland, including Donegal

In case readers of Donegal Now were wondering why there were harps on all their money.

it is that sort of weird no-man's land all tucked away up there

i mean, the train doesn't even go there still, does it?

donegal is a fine place but a hard case and if they seceded I'd not blame them much

but turning sinn féin is no fucking way to go about things neither

where would they secede to? their own republic? at least they'd get the trains running on ti-

oh chrisht u better hope #0 dont pop in

Snacks are such a granny-visit bar. Yellow clear favourites.

Donegal could secede to Iceland. Donegal Catch wouldn't have to sweat the quotas.

Jesus they'd go for that I'm practically authorised to speak on behalf of killybegs meself

yellow, really? if there were enough Irish ilxors for a poll, I'd expect purple to walk it.

purple def the type of niche indie option I'd expect ILX to go for tbh!

but I would not be able to vote in such a poll a world without any of em is a poorer place and they occupy v different needs imo

I guess what I'm rly saying is that

I dont care if you're pink, yellow, purple

definitive snack ranking

purple
yellow

pink

Purple. Pink only for culchie primary school teachers along with king crisps.

put up your 29 fists

Is crystal meth really legal until Thursday?

disgraceful, could they not stretch it out until monday?

may i call people's attention to this Best Irish Films ?

http://www.thejournal.ie/tds-emergency-laws-drugs-1983239-Mar2015/

Dia dhuit Éire

hiiiiiiiii

it's completely unsurprising that this has been allowed to happen. This country's drug policy over the last decade has basically been a series of cobbled together quick fixes inspired by particularly heated episodes of Liveline

darragh spent the night off his nut stroking his nipples while listening to "live forever" on repeat

u know it

Definitely an image more for Adrian Kennedy than Joe Duffy.

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/family-fortunes-men-were-a-rare-species-on-achill-in-the-1950s-1.2138780

uncle michéal with some thoughts. my mum is in braces in the front row.

That's brilliant. Also a great picture!

Achill is one of the greatest places (totally sidestepping the sadder parts of the story, sorry).

http://i.imgur.com/6KyQBO8.jpg?1

lads

sports and social committee at work are holding a fundraiser night for a yes vote.

is there a way to point out that this is not rly cool without it being a dick move. obv I'm voting yes myself.

Who ate all the pies... in the future.

i read that story yesterday, i can't believe the stats in it are accurate, plus anyway weren't we hungry long enough?!

lads

sports and social committee at work are holding a fundraiser night for a yes vote.

is there a way to point out that this is not rly cool without it being a dick move. obv I'm voting yes myself.

curious on this one, deems. what was your issue with it?

was it appropriate/fair for a work event to take a stance kind of thing?

had two people on my team raise it, one from the above POV and the other, imo, from a POV of a no voter that had yknow actual issues with specifically a yes campaign in the work environment

I raised it informally with a member of the committee, she kinda et me, which annoyed me but i wasn't carrying a torch for pushing it or anything so I left it at that, I was told to ask kinda thing.

senior management pulled the event fwiw

i guess it depends how attached to the office and company the sports/social team is. i wasn't sure of that until your clarification there.

interested in the referendum generally, do any of you know any no voters? my dad said he was voting no, my mum is voting yes. dad said "when i tell people they think i've grown horns". i tried to gently offer some persuasive arguments, he mostly was reasonable about it but i assume some baseline homophobia is his motivation.

I know of one confirmed and he had horns already

I heard one person express that they were considering it because she wasn't sure, having looked at it, that it wasn't anything more than a sop

her four adult kids went fuckin nuts at her, like I was a bit embarrassed for them.

other than that, its all yes, but hey I wouldn't be much for mixing it 'no' circles. one gay fella I knkw said he might vote no cos he's against marriage and the conformity aspect, but he's a law unto himself the same man.

my mum is voting yes but still seemed to believe it was only a sop, as you put it.

he mostly was reasonable about it but i assume some baseline homophobia is his motivation.

Out of interest, what were his reasonable reasons? Are they based in religious beliefs?

I'd be suprised if anyone in my family was voting No. Even if my gay cousins weren't a consideration, my family just would not think it was their business to say who was and wasn't allowed to get married.

I know a few people who are in the "never voted, never will" camp, which is even worse.

"what happens when the parents get divorced? do the children get divorced too?"

"im sure its the same as when a straight couple get divorced, ma. One parent has custody and the kids see the other parent on weekends probably"

"hmmm, i dunno"

ha

Out of interest, what were his reasonable reasons? Are they based in religious beliefs?

ah his reasons were't reasonable at allreally - there are no reasonable reasons in favour of a "no" imo - i guess i just meant he wasn't attacking people or belligerent, he had some vague thing about distinguishing marriage based on who can biologically have kids, nothing which stood up. don't think he was particularly bothered either way - which is prob why this will be carried. wouldn't surprise me if he didn't actually vote.

I'm not an advocate of even bringing up the obvious counter arguments, but didja ask him about the straight couple that can't/won't have kids corollary?

kids. such a bizarre thing to fixate on in re a tax arrangement like marriage.

i think a lot of people of my parents' generation might vote no tho, and talking to friends backs this up. i mean i dunno, personally my parents are from an incredibly old-fashioned world - they prob have never been friends with a gay person or someone who isn't white. i had a grand uncle who was incredibly camp, moved to chicago in the 50s, was a hairdresser and dance teacher, visited ireland on his way to see his friend julio in spain every year, and gave my mum leopard print sheets for christmas, i mean i can remember the idea he was being ludicrous in a stern way for my parents, until a few years ago when it seemed to become accepted family truth, in line with the times.

i mean obviously there is real virulent shit coming out of the religious right, and it's a disgrace if this referendum doesn't get carried, but one generation back in ireland is still a v strange and conservative world. doesn't mean these people are morons or bigots. dunno what i'd think if i had religion beaten into me my whole life.

xpost my dad was saying "but they'll never have equality" because of the biologically can't have kids issue, and i just kinda needled him towards "well we can't yet change that which is why we should change every legal status that we can change" - i felt he was fairly receptive but it wouldn't have changed his vote. as i say tho, he was more like "my two cents" knowing it's going to get carried. it all kinda came up cos i went to uni (and my debs) with a certain irish columnist who wrote that fairly arresting article last week.

that was a follow-up to my own comment, before my xpost to darragh in the last par

xpost he had some vague thing about distinguishing marriage based on who can biologically have kids

yeah this is pretty much my mum's reasoning also

and i meant to say about my uncle "i can remember the idea he was gay being ludicrous for my parents" xpost