please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread

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pathetically, i've never read hooks, but she seems more of a "public intellectual"--which definitely has a different sense in the US now than, say, France in the late 60s.

ryan, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

I feel like activism could use a huge infusion of heteroglossia and deconstructionism- it's a bit too fixed in the way it speaks and thinks

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

Like the problem is really that it isn't critical theory enough

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

that post epitomizes 'armchair' lol

successful activists of the past did just fine without critical theory, no?

flopson, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

lenin was pretty sucesssful

ryan, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

this convo's a little too meta. what's a goal of activists that could be better achieved or conceived through more heteroglossia and deconstructionism?

flopson, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Like the problem is really that it isn't critical theory enough

― Mordy, Friday, February 27, 2015 2:50 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please temp-ban Mordy from the please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

They might be able to build better coalitions I think and move away from a lot of the eating their own tailness

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

do you need critical theory to come to that conclusion? lots of people who haven't say exactly that all the time

flopson, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Like the problem is really that it isn't critical theory enough

― Mordy, Friday, February 27, 2015 2:50 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please temp-ban Mordy from the please temp-ban Mordy from the Thatcher Is Dead thread

― lag∞n, Friday, February 27, 2015 2:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thread

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

They might be able to build better coalitions I think and move away from a lot of the eating their own tailness

― Mordy, Friday, February 27, 2015 7:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol tell that to slate

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

The only thing beautiful is uselessness

, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

it might give a framework under which to open up the tent. All the dichotomies rigid ideologies and enemy lists just foment disunity.

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

not true lots of things are beautiful like a pretty girl or a mountain xp

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

Mountains are useless

, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

The ocean is beautiful

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

My view is raze the academy. Destroy all language

, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

Mountains are useless

― 龜, Friday, February 27, 2015 2:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

um no

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

mountains trap atmospheric moisture as its passes by

Aimless, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

it's interesting how the philosophical underpinning of a field can influence public perception. like economists seem like idiots because they're positivist so they make bold pronouncements that are completely wrong some time, while theorists seem like they're constantly evading attributing a fixed meaning to anything they write because they're poststructuralist or whatever

flopson, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

nagl "thread"ing yr own post lagoon

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

ok but like, are you gonna make a FOR HETEROGLOSSIA banner?

like, i've been trying to get people to re-read their Huey Newton for 10 years cause I thought their (at least on paper) confrontation of racism *and* capitalism *and* hetereo/sexism was just the kind of umbrella thinking that could be useful to bring people onto the same page but

who's gonna listen to hoos

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

wld like to point out i have been thread itt

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

i kinda hate how some ppl try to roll anti-capitalism into any discussion of anti-racism/feminism/etc. like obvs things ~interact~ and are not completely independent but your successor socialist utopia is still gonna be racist af if it just assumes that once we pull out the jenga piece of the profit motive all other oppressions will just fade away

flopson, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

the good thing about anti-capitalism is that [almost] everyone has a personal stake in it as a system. for the vast majority of ppl any given identity politics is not to have a personal stake for them, at best they can be allies.

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

is not going* to have

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

IDK man anti-capitalism is like anti-whiteness by default because of who benefits the most from capitalism, glad to hear you are anti-white ppl Mordy =)

, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

i kinda hate how some ppl try to roll anti-capitalism into any discussion of anti-racism/feminism/etc. like obvs things ~interact~ and are not completely independent but your successor socialist utopia is still gonna be racist af if it just assumes that once we pull out the jenga piece of the profit motive all other oppressions will just fade away

― flopson, Friday, February 27, 2015 8:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

~intersectional namaste~

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

well i'm certainly not pro white ppl! fuck those guys imo.

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

but the pt is that even among WHITEZ, the vast majority do not benefit from capitalism

Mordy, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

it's funny how you start having a discussion about whatever and before you know you're having theoretical debates about the priority of capitalism. it's not so much that anyone needs but it's already there and at work.

ryan, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

ppl are most smug about how capitalism is bad out of all the leftist twitter topics, like they have discovered a most beautiful secret, the thing they neglect to mention is that other things are bad too

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

xps ha left out the key word, "it's not that anyone needs theory..."

ryan, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

your successor socialist utopia is still gonna be racist af if it just assumes that once we pull out the jenga piece of the profit motive all other oppressions will just fade away

― flopson, Friday, February 27, 2015 8:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is exactly why black liberation politics and particularly the anticapitalism of the panthers & APOC groups is so essential to any useful analysis i think

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

imo the left will never obtain self knowledge until it faces the fact that socialism is the most #actually form of government ever theorized

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

also that cries for justice are often just another way of expressing an affront to ones sensibilities

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

'there is no such thing as society' after all

― Mordy , Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

mordy's keyboard dusted for frog prints

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:20 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was pin on frog prince

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

pun, ffs

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

poster puns on 'prince'/'prints', posts 'pin'

Frederik B, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

this is one of my fave thread titles

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

This revive is a gift.

how's life, Friday, 22 December 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

Dig up Thatcher and force May to drink her.

— A CHRISTMAS BOY (@NightmareModeGo) December 22, 2017

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

Fred I missed that but kudos

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 22 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

I was gonna say, this thread title is wonderful

brimstead, Friday, 22 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

its really the baby shoes never worn of ilx

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

the o.g. version: The Locking of the Avril Thread

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 22 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link


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