Breaking -- The human race has waived Josh Smith: 2014-15 regular season thread part 2

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no worries

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link

i can no longer keep track of when durant is playing and when he isn't

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link

man the thunder look bad

k3vin k., Friday, 27 February 2015 04:01 (nine years ago) link

i think reggie just called brandon knight brandon jennings

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link

lol he would

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

he has never let thoughts or team roster sheets in front of him get in the way of speaking

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link

kinda surprised russ leads the league in technicals, would've figured it was CP3 or blake (blake is only 5th)

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 04:07 (nine years ago) link

rip earl lloyd, nba's first black player

Clay, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:01 (nine years ago) link

the bledsoe trade was a monumental robbery for the suns

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:24 (nine years ago) link

reggie miller cliff paul commercial death to america

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link

bledsoe is good like every three games tbf

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link

still getting that guy for only jared dudley, washed up caron butler and two seconds is crazy. they got a really good young point player for essentially nothing.

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:52 (nine years ago) link

bledsoe has been the best player on the floor tonight

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:52 (nine years ago) link

yeah but then they had to pay him

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 05:53 (nine years ago) link

hasn't lived up to his contract yet

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 05:53 (nine years ago) link

i believe in soe

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

the waiters otoh trade looks................

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

bledsoe is fine but just really inconsistent this year. see if he can take the team on his back now w out dragon

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 05:56 (nine years ago) link

literally where did the idea that waiters is good come from even

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link

the knight contract wasn't ideal but he looks like a guy who could really lead a team soon

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link

er bledsoe

we'll see the knight contract

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 05:58 (nine years ago) link

waiters had some moments in his first few seasons where you could pretty easily see his jamal crawford potential

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 06:01 (nine years ago) link

he's basically marcus thornton with a worse attitude

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:03 (nine years ago) link

he has always been bad even in college

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 06:04 (nine years ago) link

man do the suns badly need a wing who can hit an open 3

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 06:14 (nine years ago) link

they just needed to keep frye

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:16 (nine years ago) link

ya he was croosh

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 06:18 (nine years ago) link

pj tucker traditionally hits that corner three tho

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:19 (nine years ago) link

good god tucker has been brutal

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 06:19 (nine years ago) link

hes a good backup, shouldn't be starting

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:19 (nine years ago) link

the morris twins have mostly fallen into that top of the key spacer role, they need anthony morrow basically

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 06:20 (nine years ago) link

lol nice final play bledsoe

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link

man alive that bledsoe block

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:28 (nine years ago) link

kinda dig these suns grey alt jerseys

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link

bledsoe playing with 5 fouls too

micah, Friday, 27 February 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link

lmao wiaters

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link

dang he turned his ankle on that final drive

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:37 (nine years ago) link

huge win for the suns

Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 27 February 2015 06:42 (nine years ago) link

literally where did the idea that waiters is good come from even
--lag∞n

idk where it came from but the idea that he is worth anyone's attention is being maintained by NBA writers who are more into the soap opera aspect of the league than, y'know, the actual games

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 13:54 (nine years ago) link

he's playing major minutes on one of the most compelling teams in the league

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link

right, i guess a better way to put it is, it sorta baffles me (although maybe it shouldn't) that various nba writers spend a lot of time talking about him beyond "he is bad" and try to pitch this "he is bad but also compelling" argument, because all things being equal we should not be interested in a player who exemplifies constant mediocrity and frequent shittiness coupled with a complete and utter denial of said shittiness

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link

like remember when a not insignificant number of people were saying that JR would prob be more damaging to cleveland than waiters would be to OKC, and that JR was the shit sandwich cleve needed to eat to get iman shumpert? i didn't understand that and it ended up being markedly not true

slothroprhymes, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link

it's not that waiters is "bad but compelling" -- he's bad but important. he has been a pivotal role player on two of the most important teams in the nba this season!

think about why no one ever talks about derrick williams

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

i talk abt derrick williams nearly constantly

lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

While working out this week, I joined an interesting conversation about analytics with some other applied mathematicians and statisticians. It mostly concerned Kirk Goldsberry’s presentation during the 2014 Joint Statistical Meetings about advances in basketball analytics. Everyone agreed it was embarrassing. He didn’t show recorded observations (“proprietary”) or predictive models (“proprietary”). Moreover, he couldn’t identify one accurate prediction. Why do basketball bloggers give people shit about being skeptical about the recent analytics trend? It’s a completely reasonable view. Ergh.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

proprietary work is a problem across sports analytics i think

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

e.g. this tweet doesn’t even make sense:

https://twitter.com/billoram/status/570764951578488832

(However, he does set himself up for a joke about imaginary numbers.)

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

proprietary work is a problem across sports analytics i think

Fine. But not showing predictions? Finance is secretive too, but it’s easy to know when a model works and when it doesn’t.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

Here’s some related trivia that I love that few people know: Donald Knuth started modeling Case Institute of Technology basketball games in the fifties (thirty years before Bill James’ Abstract).

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

i'm not familiar w/ the presentation you're talking about (the rebounding one?) nor do i know remotely nearly enough about statistics as a practice to argue about it, so i will cede the floor

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 February 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link


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