start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

I get pretty IA when people say they don't really notice song lyrics.

what's hard about a 4-way stop? you stop, you wait for your turn in the rotation, then go. i have become irrationally angry about this feigned confusion thing.

Ive seen 4 way give ways but 4 way stop sounds confusing. Who goes first? #spotthenondriver

A give way? What is that?

I'm fine with most aspects of 4-way stops except left-turn protocol. I used to be the king of 4-way stops but I haven't owned a car in over 10 years and I forgot that fine point.

And the 3 sites I looked at today were definitely not instructive about left turns. (That one about Michigan threatened to leave me worse off than I was, with its whole "nobody really knows what 'arrive' or 'stop' mean.")

don't think there's any special left (or right) turn protocol. cars simply go in the order they arrived at the stop line.

yes, that means you may cross the path of another car entering the intersection after you, but as you have priority and were signaling your turn, no problem. just turn & go.

I'd never thought of the logic of yielding to the right, but it really makes sense

yield to the right because the car on the right will clear the intersection faster than if the one on the left goes first. (This is because we drive on the right half of the road. When the car on the right goes first, it travels only half way across the road before it is out of your way. If the car on the left moves first, it will have to travel across the entire intersection before being out of the way.

OK I think my confusion is cured. I was way overthinking it.

BTW this is totally OTM.

• If you are situated on the left, start moving when the car is out of your way (hesitate only if the car is turning left). You do not have to watch the driver disappear over the horizon before you start moving. Be assertive so that cars arriving after you will not be confused. This means taking your foot off the brake and letting your car begin to roll when you know it is your turn. Other drivers will then know you are getting ready to turn. If you hesitate, your four-way stop can quickly turn into a confusing staring contest.

xp otm. "yield to the right" applies not to turns made while passing through the intersection, but rather the order of priority when cars arrive at the stop line (or w/e) at the same time.

I know, that was just a side-topic (yield to the right, I mean).

sorry for pedantic. do get worked up over 4-way stops though. at least it's the thread for it.

Sorry give way is what we call what I think you guys call yeild? (pause but dont have to full stop)

Yield is mostly a theoretical concept in FL. There is talk that it exists, but evidence has yet to manifest

yep trayce xpost

Wow at yield-to-right logic. My mind is an open window with knowledge shining in.

Are y'all adverse to traffic lights or something? =)

Sometimes I think we're averse to any traffic control. My work building management started a petition to our alderman to put up stop signs on the arterial 3-lane street in front of the building. His staff said they had to commission a dept. of transportation traffic study before they could authorize its installation. It still took a year and a stern letter about the numerous crashes over that year before they got installed.

everybody over here sees "STOP HERE ON RED" signs and thinks that means "no turn on red", fucking infuriating.

yet they see "NO TURN ON RED" and it's like the sign said "I DOUBLE DAWG DARE YEWWWWWW" to them

WTF did I type "adverse" for. jesus.

Thing that tripped me out in AUS was (almost} no stop signs at small intersections.

Sunny's all "Well that's what the white line's for," and I'm like "Oh, the one I just drove over?"

(Figuratively. I wasn't allowed to drive down there for some reason.)

heh.

if you want to see the stop sign system really break down, wait until you come to an intersection where the lights are out or broken and they're all flashing red

Non-traffic related irrational anger - when I go out to eat or to a bar that isn't necessarily beer-specific but I know they have at least a couple of decent beers on tap and ask what's available and get "what kind of beer do you like?" or "what are you looking for?" as a reply. I like all kinds of beers and would rather try something new or unusual depending on what is available, just give me the damn list.

Agree

other drivers' behavior at 4-way blinking red lights has caused me so much anguish

I notice that the drivers on the busier street always treat the blinking red as a "slow down" light

this may actually be irrational-- but I hate sports terminology in political news stories so much. Right now Huffpost has a headline "House Prepares to Punt on DHS." What the hell does punt mean in the context of that headline? "Punting" is kicking a football through some metal rods held aloft by another metal rod, right?

Look it up, nerd.

;) Punting = giving up in this context.

lol yeah that word has multiple definitions and they are not even using the football one there

yeah they are, unless you think they are preparing to propel a small boat

1.
FOOTBALL
kick (the ball) after it is dropped from the hands and before it reaches the ground.
"he used to be able to punt a football farther than anyone"
(of an offensive team) turn possession over to the defensive team by punting the ball after failing to make a first down.
"the Raiders could get nowhere with their possession, and had to punt"
(of a player) act as the punter.
2.
delay in answering or taking action; equivocate.
"he would continue to punt on questions of Medicare"

you're looking at the noun definitions, it has multiple defs as a noun AND a verb

def #2 derives from #1 tho

you understand that 2 comes from 1 tho right?

brands that quickly jump on internet memes

Last week Scott Walker said "I'm going to punt on that one" when asked about evolution. News sites helpfully ran stories like "Walker Punts On Evolution"

You're a bad kicker if you punt it through the uprights though.

Also, I hate it when goal posts are called "uprights".

eh shrug

When people sit in the seat next to you and sits spread eagle

when you go on a trip with friends and one of them decides not to shower...for three and a half days

these are not i

ya i know but i had to get it off my chest, was tearing me up inside

When restaurants with spicy cuisines insist on not making my food spicy no matter how much I assure them I want spicy.

^sign of bad restaurant

^^ also a sign of bad restaurant clientele

I was with a friend at a Thai restaurant (the kind where a lot of Thai people, & w/ a "secret" Thai-only menu) and he ordered his food to be "Thai spicy." The server didn't speak English very well and she smiled/grimaced and said, "Oh, no no no.... too spicy!" She called over someone else and there was a lot more "Are you sure? Too spicy!"

Even after all that it was pretty hot, but definitely not "Thai spicy." Maybe if he had pre-paid?

"thai spicy" is just a dumb thing to say, i would have clowned him as well.

I thought it was a common term in Thai cuisine?