'Children of Men', the new Alfonso Cuaron sci-fi flick

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"the ending of the terminator is much more satisfying than the ending of a simple heart"

Don't they both die at the end?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

that's one way of looking at it. another way is the parrot lives forever and so does the T-1000.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

however, I didn't throw the TV across the room when I was finished watching the terminator

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I am picturing the parrot frozen and shot to pieces, then writhing in industrial lava.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't like this movie. I don't really care for "visceral" action scenes and the treacle of the trailer is a pretty accurate represention of the sentiment of the movie. It kinda cruises along on anxiety/fear and a hushed awe for the miracle of human life. It's really not very radical in any way. Standard liberal humanism right? What's to get excited about.

ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

you're thinking of a simple heart II

xpost

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I often find it amazing how a messageboard titled "I Love Everything" can find so many ways to make me want to hate everything.

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

It's really not very radical in any way.

who cares?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I do!

ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I often find it amazing how a messageboard titled "I Love Everything" can find so many ways to make me want to hate everything.

HI DERE wins. Lock ILX.

legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a really short movie too, so extra points for that.

how did anyone ever mistake you for a cineaste?

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I picture ryan filtering out of the theatre muttering under his breath "that was not at all radical..."

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

looooooooooooooool morbs

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha! Well I should stress I enjoyed it ok. I just get riled up by "movie of the decade talk" so I nitpick.

ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

that's okay, I also picture morbz in the lobby, facing the exiting the crowd, yelling the same thing like howard beale

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I think ryan's disappointment is a reaction to ILE doing the batshit-overpraise thing when anything of some quality appears in the multiplex that everyone can talk about instead of Haha Awful Nicolas Cage Movie So Grebt & Well Worth $11.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought this movie was anti-abortion or something? Sort of right-wing Christian fantasy except for the Virgin Mary being black and not a virgin.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

no.

but you shouldn't get riled up by "movie of the decade talk" in a decade as shitty as this one.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

god forbid that ppl who enjoy something say they enjoy it, what is this world coming to

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

if there was only one pregnant woman left in the entire world I might get all anti-abortion too but it's not like I left the theater and went to go bomb a clinic

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS xp

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

but morbs, if it's been such a shitty decade are we not allowed to get psyched when something with half a brain comes to the multiplex?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry but i am one of those "spectrum of human experience" saddoes who demands a range of feeling in a movie

really not sure what you're talking about dude. CoM has a huge range. as s1ocki says upthread, there's a lot of humor, melancholy, joy in this. the whole michael caine character, "strawberry cough" pot, the ping pong joke, theo making the activist dude buy him 3 pints at the bar in exchange for travel visa. the friendship between caine's character & owens was great. lots of great scenes of melancholy, quiet sadness - the abandoned school, caine giving his wife and dog the suicide drug. all this shit made the action sequences 100x more intense b/c unlike so many other war/action-drama movies i actually gave a shit about the characters

mark cl, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

see that stuff didn't stick with me, except the abandoned school. the violence is just so OTT that it obliterated the rest of the movie in my memory.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

really, though, s1ocki nailed it. it's a great movie and i'm an awful wuss.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

THIS MOVIE IS TOO EXCITING

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

THIS MOVIE IS TOO EXCITING BRITISH

amirite

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"get psyched" is fine, cad.

btw, my top 10 of '06, at the time...

Inland Empire (David Lynch)
Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón)
The Joy of Life (Jenni Olson)
Kekexili (Mountain Patrol) (Chuan Lu)
Battle in Heaven (Carlos Reygadas)
Gabrielle (Patrice Chéreau)
Curse of the Golden Flower (Zhang Yimou)
My Country, My Country (Laura Poitras)
4 (Ilya Khrjanovsky)
Neil Young: Heart of Gold (Jonathan Demme)

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

CoM, your typical merchant-ivory production

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Curse of the Golden Flower (Zhang Yimou)

the only other movie on your list I saw (thought it was awesome)

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

"the violence is just so OTT"

please watch "shoot em up" the pro-gun control bulletfest movie and report back with comparisons.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Neil Young: Heart of Gold (Jonathan Demme)

haha waht

Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, WAHT?

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't thought about this one in a while, but I think I remember the Michael Caine scenes, and the reveal of the pregnant girl, the refugee family that takes them in, etc. better than any of the action.

Yeah, the liberal humanist stuff.

too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to see Heart of Gold in its entirety. Every once in a while I pick up a half hour here or there on Sundance/IFC but never get around to finding the DVD.

too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

s1ocki i hear you too but that sounds sorta like the apologist defense of irreversible

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:41 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

weak

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

really, though, s1ocki nailed it. it's a great movie and i'm an awful wuss.

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:11 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im sorry i resorted to wuss-calling dude that was lame of me

s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

still stand behind the rest of my argument tho

s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

still tho one of my favorite lines from this movie was "baby diego, c'mon the guy was a wanker"

mark cl, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

ok so morbs can we agree that the line between 'batshit-overpraise' and 'get psyched' is a moving target most of the time.

i was totally pumped when i saw CoM (i would never think in 'movie of the decade' terms, but def one of my favs of that year) but admittedly haven't given it much thought since then. people tend to moderate their reactions w/time and distance and stuff.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

in fact I saw it twice in the theaters, very rare for me

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Along with all the Pink Floyd stuff, did anyone else notice the Magma reference? The bit where they're all staying w/ Michael Caine and Miriam sees Kee outside exercising and asks "Is she doing Udu Wudu?". I think I heard that bit right anyhow...

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

a lil hut covered in newspapers. newspapers. in the 2020s. hmmm.

BIG GERTRUDE aka the steindriver (history mayne), Monday, 21 March 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

wish i saw this in theaters, i blame the shitty trailers for keeping me away

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 21 March 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I never saw Erin Brockovich, but I did just have fun visiting our old thread for Master and Commander, still my ultimate mindblowing example of how films suck at telling stories:
"Hello, doctor, we are passing the Galapagos Islands."
"Oh! I never mentioned this before, but did you know that my character I am an avid naturalist, and would really like to see the Galapagos Islands?"
"I'm sorry, but we're in pursuit of a ship and can't stop."
"Well then be advised that this is a very dramatic moment, and a conflict now exists between the two of us."

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:04 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

heh, i like to imagine nabisco quit posting out of shame when he was decisively proven wrong about Master & Commander

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 21 March 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

don't you see nrq, once the earth's population got old they wanted ink on their hands again.

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Watched this for the second time last night. I must've REALLY not been concentrating the first time round because really, I don't remember half the stuff. If anything this film's improved with age because it predicts so much.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:01 (twelve years ago) link

If I were to change anything, I'd have left out some of the pop music in the first half. While the tracks were great, they felt crowbarred in and kind of detracted from what was going on. I realise Caine's character is supposed to be a sort-of sixties hippie equivalent, so there is a LOL element to him playing Radiohead and Roots Manuva in the same way some ageing dopesmoker might Grateful Dead, but still.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

<3 this movie. need to see it again.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:28 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't seen it since the theater. Time to revisit for sure.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:30 (twelve years ago) link


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