iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

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twitter ruined ilx, facebook ruined the internet

flopson, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

xp - you know you can unfollow these people and your feed will change?

This is seriously the magic bullet right here

brimstead, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

unfollow is so crucial

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link

people show up more in your feed if they've been clicking on you / scoping you out - y/n? paranoid?

i still don't really get pages or events, seems like there are pros out there, i just want to make a thing for my thing and not think about anything, y can't i do that.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

p. interesting to me how earnest this thread is -- like, there's a joke or two but this feels like a q that is important to people. I think about it too - feel like fb didn't ruin shit until the upworthy style of presentation got perfected but once that happened, fuckin A. if you don't curate the shit out of your fb feed it's just garbage clickbait forever and it feels like it's getting worse daily, but at some point even your ex-coworkers will get sick of that too and stuff will change a little...maybe? if upworthy headlines are the terminal point of social media that's kind of hilarious and horrible

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

One Shocking Truth About Social Media

, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

think-pieces ruined the internet

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

wow i never get upworthy shit just constant deejay / electronic music / albums by bands news and social justice axes / snarky stuff from brit ilx zing crew ("look at that over dere!") but then i'm pretty strict about unfollow, if you post one annoying thing u r gone from the safe space of my feed immediately.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

mordy otm about killfiling on facebook, pruning your feed for annoying people is so necessary. but i keep some in there just to keep me in check even though they are basically spamming my life.

i moved away from the city i had lived in my entire life this year and fb is an okay way to feel connected to my friends back home, so i appreciate it for that. i'll occasionally argue with someone in the comments but i don't find it's a great platform for that, better to have some distance than like arguing with a random dude u went to hs with over whether bill maher is islamophobic

i know this is a set up for a knee-slappingly self-deprecating comeback but communities like ilx or sa at their best is the best form of the internet imo. unless you're a celeb or "work" for it (lol) twitter is just too much shouting into the void (the only non-spam followers i have on twitter are irls and ilxors) and fb is too personal so u can't go full sociopath. like u get good writing, you can outsource a lot of 'content' mining to ppl you "trust", get enough feedback to not make u feel like a shrimpy voyeur, perfect anonymity

flopson, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

mords is always a welcome sighting, i don't get why everyone's always so seemingly annoyed @ u tbr. xps

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

Facebook fixed the internet for a lot of people who never would have used RSS, Twitter or message boards. Their options before Facebook were the "funny" email forwards from their uncle or going to the Yahoo front page.

I don't really post to FB any more, because I don't know who I'm talking to and it feels weird. But it's good that people have a way to share stuff with friends and family. I mean if all Facebook did was provide the world's best platform for baby picture sharing that's a legit thing for a few hundred people to spend time building imo.

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

great post flopson

i moved away from the city i had lived in my entire life this year and fb is an okay way to feel connected to my friends back home, so i appreciate it for that.

yeah this is largely its function for me, and those are the same people sharing clickbait - former coworkers who I love and care about but who are really very normal people, y'know. so like 3/4 of their posts are "are you fucking kidding me" stuff but fb is otherwise the best & probably only medium for staying connected to them.

otm about how ilx (or sa no doubt, haven't posted there so I'd only know passively) are, when they're working and people are hearing each other and responding, some of the best of the internet.

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

pruning your feed for annoying people is so necessary. but i keep some in there just to keep me in check even though they are basically spamming my life.

haha if i was into "truth bombing" things, this would totally be one for me

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

not to come off all "my friends are cool" but "very normal" != sharing upworthy trash, ime

brimstead, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

I used to prune the feed but I opened the floodgates a while back to get the full experience

chinavision!, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

feel like fb didn't ruin shit until the upworthy style of presentation got perfected but once that happened, fuckin A. if you don't curate the shit out of your fb feed it's just garbage clickbait forever and it feels like it's getting worse daily, but at some point even your ex-coworkers will get sick of that too and stuff will change a little...maybe?

That's not Facebook ruining the internet. That's people ruining Facebook.

As a non-Facebooker (I DON'T EVEN HAVE A TV (j/k I do have a TV and I watch it ALL THE FUCKING TIME)) with a carefully curated Twitter feed and a nice selection of RSS feeds, I hardly ever see that kind of clickbait-y garbage.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

on the aggregation level i find that ilx + well chosen fb friends + rss feeds + [a little bit twitter] + some online newspapers/magazines = pretty good combo for keeping abreast of all interesting developments. i'm not sure that any of them tho are /really/ very good at facilitating conversation which is probably best kept to rl f2f convos and IM chats (which fb is also pretty good for tbh - over the last decade or whatever almost all my IM conversations have migrated from AIM to gmail to FB)

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

might do that i need a shakeup xxp

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

i am due for another round of pruning. a while back, i loosened my standards for friend request acceptance as well as the prime facebook error of commenting on and liking posts by generally dull people, so I am seeing a lot of "hilarious animal videos from fake radio stations" right now

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

there are many different flavors of upworthy trash and all kinds of people in my fb newsfeed post it. there is a totally rad couple i'm friends with who are both social workers and they are both really into activism and he's into all kinds of cool weird music but all they post is the social justice equivalent of upworthy trash. "WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THIS COP AND THIS BLACK YOUTH WILL BLOW YOUR MIND"

marcos, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm not sure that any of them tho are /really/ very good at facilitating conversation which is probably best kept to rl f2f convos and IM chats (which fb is also pretty good for tbh - over the last decade or whatever almost all my IM conversations have migrated from AIM to gmail to FB)

the reason i started reading ilx was because i was 16 years old and had no one to talk about pitchfork with f2f lmao

flopson, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

fb messenger is really sweet because you can communicate entirely w/ stickers. i probably fb message more than i even text and if it didnt kill my phones battery i would basically only use fb message for chatting

interesting to read this thread because most of it doesnt really get at what i hate about the 'facebooking' of the internet but i am also getting old i guess

no (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

i'll cop to sharing and liking difft versions of upworthy trash. the empty whole foods candy bar calories of fb.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Stickers are cool but they stole that pretty much wholesale from azn messaging programs :\

, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

well azn people stole the internet from whites so it's fair now

iatee, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

cultural appropriation sadface

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

interesting to read this thread because most of it doesnt really get at what i hate about the 'facebooking' of the internet but i am also getting old i guess

it seems like the content used to be 'rich', even just like random weirdo posts from some anon on a message board, but now that the mechanisms of networking, always-on-ness etc dominate every single 'publication' event, content in a global sense is being depleted, dropping to zero value

like, reading 'intellectual' thort-mag content is just the same old feeling as reading a buzzfeed listicle, only with more brow, and they all still flog it on the same more-more-more new-new-new cycle

j., Monday, 23 February 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

feeling that post. liking it if u will

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

As much as I love ILX, this place can be so high-pressure sometimes, because the average level of intelligence and discernment is so high and people are so quick to shoot down bullshit and banality. Sometimes it's freeing to just be like "here's a picture of us having fun at a basketball game" and not have to think of something original to say.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

so happy we don't have 'likes' on ilx since the way i see ppl on fb use it, esp during 'political discussions,' is just to 'like' every single comment that agrees w/ them which would obv be out of control here

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

the stickers and emoji things are really ugly

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Monday, 23 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

kind of a slave to the like tbr it's how they get you

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

I have only ever seen the stickers used ironically.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

i exclusively use bee + puppycat stickers on fb

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

ilx has fun picture threads it's pro fun around here afaict

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

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well azn people stole the internet from whites so it's fair now

― iatee, Monday, February 23, 2015 2:52 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Whites stole emoji too. Whites are out of control

, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

bee + puppycat is great. also a big fan of powerrangers and internet slang.

no (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

i saw some insane screed this dude posted about the illumanti to the noize bord in like 2005 get revived the other day. feel like thats the internet i want. i mean those dudes are still posting shit but its like youtube vidz which is lame.

no (Lamp), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

those stickers are cute.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

luriqua? luriqua was definitely a high pt of internet weird

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

i think there's something about the shape and color and size related to text ... like my visceral reaction of "ugh gross" to those things feels comparable to the way some ppl responded to that trypophobia thread

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

like, reading 'intellectual' thort-mag content is just the same old feeling as reading a buzzfeed listicle, only with more brow, and they all still flog it on the same more-more-more new-new-new cycle

^^ yeah I mean this is what I mean by upworthy. it's all fucking upworthy. lots of right-on I'd-agree-with-this-if-I-was-going-to-follow-that-link stuff is the same shit just higher-falutin', adding nothing to anything, just back-patting "I also want to weigh in stuff"

much like this post, my bad

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link

the cactus and monkey stickers are the best

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link

what's a thort-mag

Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

thort - thong/short

iyo iyo un day (how's life), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

sometimes i get a calm peaceful feeling from liking a bunch of stuff i'm not going to click on or comments i don't really care about. steady accumulation of plus ones in the relevant slots.

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

tbh I read a lot of erowid for old style Internet fun

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

random acts of kindness xp

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link

lol totally

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Monday, 23 February 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link

I enjoy the byproduct of FB that is two strangers ripping into each other on a post about a local event and a friend who somehow knows both people intervening so the other two don't kill each other IRL

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 January 2024 05:45 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Most of my posts in this thread are about how much I hate Facebook and hate that I've let it become part of my life, so I'm really loathe to defend it in any context. But god it's nauseating to watch Josh Hawley and Lindsey Graham get all self-righteous for the cameras in that hearing today. "You have blood on your hands" says Trump/Jan. 6 apologist Lindsay Graham to the approval of the room.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 February 2024 04:28 (two months ago) link

you don't have to watch that! you and i and everyone except the new york times knows that it's just playacting. don't do it!

that said, the part with tom cotton doggedly asking the singaporean guy if he was a commie spy who approved of tiananemen square was . . . really something

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2024 04:53 (two months ago) link

I wasn't watching, I just caught it on the news. (If I had been watching, though, I'd say so--I hate the supercilious "Why are you watching this?" posting on ILX.)

clemenza, Thursday, 1 February 2024 05:24 (two months ago) link

what hearing

bae (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2024 05:35 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCB-SQJLr9E

clemenza, Thursday, 1 February 2024 05:44 (two months ago) link

what does he apologise for

bae (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2024 08:36 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Anyone else find themselves inundated with unwanted "Reels and short videos?" Every time I hide them and ask for fewer of them, but they're never not there. Complaining via help and support is pointless, of course.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:53 (two months ago) link

Reels seems to be a big part of FB's business strategy right now: https://www.reuters.com/technology/metas-reels-revenue-narrows-tiktok-boosted-by-ai-2023-07-27/

jaymc, Thursday, 22 February 2024 02:04 (two months ago) link

I'll see if I can talk them into ignoring their marketing strategy to please a retired Canadian grade-school teacher.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 02:24 (two months ago) link


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