Codeacademy

these learn 2 code exercise sites present such a small fraction of the actual issues u will encounter irl which is part of what makes them useful but also limits their effectiveness as a learning environment

yeah plan what you want to finish it and google every little roadblock til you get there imo

also read the documentation I found that stuff a lot more useful than college notes etc at times

like coding is not actual coding which is why ppl generally call it developing these days

i guess what's difficult for me is that i want to get past the basic "beginner's website" that they teach you to build and learn how to manipulate things in experimental ways.

i really like this guy geoffrey lillemon's stuff. he changes his website constantly and the most recent version is really difficult to use and loads slowly, but generally i like how his art is embedded into the website, the way the user interacts with it. there are all these layers of images (i don't know if they're videos or flash or what) and...it's hard to explain.

i just want to know what kinds of code he's using. i'd like to be barely proficient at them so i can have more freedom in making my own stuff without relying so heavily on others.

is it all just JS/CSS/HTML?

i guess the obv answer is that i need to be patient and just learn everything possible about the basic website so that i can deconstruct it? learn to crawl before you can walk/run, etc.

i just wish there was a codecademy module that went through all the things that are NOT recommended. like, autoplaying videos and music, creating strobe light effects that might damage the viewer's eyes and cause them to sue, making lines of text blend to each other and become unreadable. instead everything is like "now we're going to teach you how to make a very professional CV that any senior vice president would love!"

u can see if u inspect hes using some css animations and also loading some js files for... something - u shd email him and ask tho good chance if u show interest in his particular project hed be into talking about it, espcailly if u showed him the cool stuff u made, or he might have it up on github too

i'm guessing he'd never respond, heh. he's one of the few people who appear to have taken the net art thing to the next level and probably has loads of money and doesn't talk to strangers

or if hes to busy and bigtime to f w u track down some lesser collaborator, someone will have blogged or want to talk to u or have a github

when ppl do clever things they like to talk abt it is the assumption im working under

i have a friend who does similar stuff http://www.yellowandorange.com tho i think hes mostly video these days anyway id be happy to introduce u i think he has a show coming up maybe

that's really cool! that's exactly what i'm talking about. i'd love to meet him sometime, but i want to get a lot better at it myself first. i'd love to talk to these people when i share the same CS vocabulary, or at least parts of the same vocabulary.

oh but regardless if he has a show coming up let me know, it would be nice to meet you and to see his stuff in person

i cld just introduce u on facebook or w/e, i wldnt worry abt not having the right skills hes super nice and humble and im sure wld be happy to talk shop, tho u wld have to refriend me lmao

smdh at myself

ha i do actually remember thinking to myself i have already been obnoxious once toward zach today maybe i shdnt go in a second time but then i did

anyway dont worry ilx we r friends again

<3

for real let me know if you attend one of his shows anytime soon. i'm reading/watching this and like his stuff a lot so far.

cool will do, tbh i havent seen him in a few years but thats mostly a function of not being in new york and were not like super tight but id be cool to see his show and say hi

tho i might be totally imagining that he said he had a show coming up, but maybe we cld visit his studio or something

oh no wait here we go https://instagram.com/p/zOGmAbL3CT

cool, yeah i'd be up for going to the show for sure

cool man its on

i've been doing the web design courses w/ this - they're fun!