hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

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^^ GG firing shots at gawker over ethics in journalism

example (crüt), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

lolololx2

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

clearly the gawker keepin' it negative dickhole cool kid crew should run ILX

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

clearly they should

― carne asada, Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:38 PM (6 years ago)

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

i think it's sad that ppl think gawker is cool -- like the ppl who write for it seem like a mix of college student newspaper dorks that felt they were "edgier" than their peers but not extroverted enough to be sketch comedy dweebs

― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, February 20, 2015 4:01 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think gawker is cool. i guess i buy into their self-image of bravely flaunting politesse standards of establishment journalism, and the writers not caring who they piss off definitely makes for interesting reading. disrespecting the death of some random tv producer i've never heard of doesn't necessarily quality as "brave," but idk it's hard to care either way. i like how the nothing gets the gloves off on ilx like obits

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

We are clearly in need of higher standards for reading.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

comic books and comic book movies should never be consumed by anyone over the age of 14

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 7:50 AM (5 hours ago)

i hope you are consistently making this argument on all the relevant ilx threads, sugar

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

i see people get all excited about these movies and then I see this woman is describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner

not to be trenchant or anything but everyone lies in obits it's the american way. *thanks obama for gawker*

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link

i mean gawker dudes, thanks dudes

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

i see people get all excited about these movies and then I see this woman is describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 1:08 PM (6 minutes ago)

you don't get boners?

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

Whiney gets a boner every time he gets the opportunity to neg on pop culture he doesn't approve of.

Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

how exciting

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

i can't help but be a little curious why a small business owner in the midwest is outraged about an obit published by a young hip but increasingly conservative new media outlet about a sad comedy ca druggy with a tumblr book deal in which there is what seems like a minor concession to past beef. small world i guess?

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Mumble! Sigh! Sob! Comics aren't just for adults anymore!

Sorry, couldn't think of better sound effects for stereotypical alt commix.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

don't care about this controversy but can't wait to make good use of this thread in the future

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

just what we need -- another cis-het white man talking about the hulk's boner

mookieproof, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

*tumbls furiously*

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

comic books and comic book movies should never be consumed by anyone over the age of 14

― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 20, 2015 7:50 AM (5 hours ago)

what about Kevin Smith movies

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

Hey hip-hop nerds. What kind-of hip-hop is this?

markers, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

will do

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link

don't you live in greenpoint where's it's like 90% polish people and upwardly mobile white twentysomethings pretending to be broke? who are you scared of there?

― imo phillips (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you scared of getting a seitan taco from the taco truck?

― imo phillips (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

best thread ever

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

"grim reapah!" burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb never fails to brighten my day

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

pretty cool to have a site mod willing to go that extra mile and call users out not just on their ilx behavior but also on how well they're doing their actual jobs

iatee, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

jjjusten is cooler than anyone who works for gawker

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 20 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

it's a real violation of privacy for mods to be digging around our personal websites

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link

ew gawker's pervasive grossness makes their regular bursts of sanctimony feel particularly disingenuous

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link

Not all hashtags are cool with Gawker. The media company wants a single general tweet about the lawsuit and if a hashtag is to be used, Gawker wants it to be #gawkerinternlawsuit. As for the no-go's, Gawker's lawyer Mark Batten writes, "The hashtags #fairpay and #livingwage are inflammatory, and the Court’s approval of those would suggest that the Court has a view about the merits of this lawsuit. And the use of #nickdenton is also inappropriate; Mr. Denton is not identified with this case, and his personal conduct is not at issue in the matter."

woooowwwwwwwwww

slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

#gawkerinternlawsuit #fairpay #livingwage #nickdenton

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

Gawker wants the plaintiffs to be careful on Reddit, not connecting this lawsuit with "unrelated controversies and political causes." Denton's company gives some examples. The plaintiffs shouldn't attempt to leverage the GamerGate controversy by posting in the subreddit "KotakuInAction," which Gawker says has expanded into general criticism of its gaming site. "Plaintiffs apparently would like notice of the lawsuit to be added to this 'munitions pile,' but there is no justification for doing so," states Gawker's letter. "The same is true of Plaintiffs’ request to post information about this lawsuit in the 'OccupyWallStreet,' 'LostGeneration,' and 'Progressive' subreddits."

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

tbf I understand them asking plaintiffs not to further sic the dogs of gamergate on them

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

or the dogs of the 'progressive' subreddit?

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link

xps to mordy's sanctimony comment: exactly, they produce good work sometimes, but the idea that they are arbiters of ethics/morality/etc. is hysterical. (the same is true of denton's sworn enemy vice, this isn't just a gawker problem)

tbh if they were honest they'd just bring back shit like gawker stalker and own the sleaze but that'll prob never happen

slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

tbf to vice they are pretty nihilistic (i feel defensive for them bc a lot of their foreign coverage has been really engaging over the last couple years)

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

we get the media outlets we deserve, unfortunately

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

xp the vice HBO series is great - the chiraq and north korea episodes from season 1 stand out in particular

slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

gawker manages to be awfully sleazy without gawker stalker

max, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link

i don't really get the complaint of being "sanctimonious." should journalists not call out people on sleazy shit if their employers do the same shit? i weakly prefer the sanctimoniousness of gawker to the seedy relativism of vice

flopson, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link

idk i don't feel like journalism should be about call-outs, that's more like arnold diaz "shame shame shame" journalism.

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link

theres also the question of the extent to which journalists or commentators shd be held accountable for the corporate sins of their employers........

max, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link

obv if someone is doing exemplary work, even for an otherwise odious media org, i'll read + appreciate them

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

generous of you

max, Friday, 20 February 2015 23:08 (nine years ago) link

i love to give back

Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

wow i can really feel the love rn

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

more 4u mordy

http://sambiddle.kinja.com

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link

Looks like my classic grim reapah thread will never die. I was young, stupid, and drugged out of my mind when I wrote that thing - whaddayawantfromme.

CoolRadio, Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

so youre saying burt stanton was your drugged out alter ego

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link

It was me on drugs making an ass out of myself. I just wanted to make people laugh, even if it was at my own expense.

CoolRadio, Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

i find it wild that people answer their phones for someone/thing that is not in their phones' phonebook (this does not apply to old ppl w only land lines)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 16 February 2024 15:47 (two months ago) link

oh lol big doubleup there

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 16 February 2024 15:48 (two months ago) link

I have the same reaction that I always do to these stories of marriage/kids/books -- I feel bad for Raffi. Being exploited like that, for his parents' benefit. I also did not know that Keith was Masha Gessen's brother. Does he not have anything else to write about?!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2024 15:53 (two months ago) link

lol mookie

I think if you have a reason to take random phone calls part of your regular set of tools needs to be specific things to ask to determine if any call is legit or total bullshit, where total bullshit is the default. I found out some coworkers were responding to direct solicitation from salespeople in their work email and WHY? if you have no need for this product or service just ignore it. anything else is “this guy responds to email, I could have a live one on the line”

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 16 February 2024 15:54 (two months ago) link

I was talking to a guy from a biometric security company a couple of days ago who reckons that we are about a year away from the kind of tech currently being used to, for example, create live deepfakes of CEOs with meticulously constructed VR spoofs of their homes and offices capable of fooling their employees and banks, being accessible to more or less anyone who wants to use it. Not sure how any of these people are going to survive.

ShariVari, Friday, 16 February 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link

the corporate threat simulations for these things have gotten a little better but are still pretty funny. oh, the ceo of my employer wants me to open this dropbox link? I totally talk to him all the time, makes sense. they’ll have to catch up further, but the limiting factor is going to be whether people high up in enough in companies will be able to take the ego hit if any of the deepfakes or spam calls actually fool them. some real thin skin in those upper echelons, sometimes

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:07 (two months ago) link

I get what you’re saying LL but I think some parenting writing avoids that by being about parenting rather than about the kid. The specifics are about the parent rather than the kid. The specifics are specific to the parent and their relationship with their partner, the kid could be any kid. (This obviously isn’t true of all parenting memories). Parenting becomes such a big part of your life (especially the mother) that they are left with nothing personal to write about if they don’t address it. Rachel cusk is good on this.

(I’m not saying this defence applies to raising raffi in particular. There are a couple of chapters in there with the stated goal of memorializing raffi the toddler, which describe him in some detail.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link

i'd love to punch my hologram CEO

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link

-KRS One

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link

“All parenting memoirs”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:22 (two months ago) link

man the emily gould piece made me financially anxious. until it mentioned the in-laws live in cape cod. later it's revealed to be falmouth. i went on zillow to see what houses there sell for. i think they'll be fine!

, Friday, 16 February 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link

I get what you’re saying LL but I think some parenting writing avoids that by being about parenting rather than about the kid. The specifics are about the parent rather than the kid. The specifics are specific to the parent and their relationship with their partner, the kid could be any kid. (This obviously isn’t true of all parenting memories). Parenting becomes such a big part of your life (especially the mother) that they are left with nothing personal to write about if they don’t address it. Rachel cusk is good on this.

(I’m not saying this defence applies to raising raffi in particular. There are a couple of chapters in there with the stated goal of memorializing raffi the toddler, which describe him in some detail.)

I hear you and don't think I will personally ever be ok with putting a young person's life on display in this way. I have very personal reasons for feeling this way and I don't see any situation in which I would feel differently. Being fully aware of the rigors of parenting (though I admittedly haven't done it myself) is not new to me. I am fully aware that in the modern world, parents become consumed by their children and have little room in their lives for much else, at least for a time. None of this is novel information, if we're being honest.

Neither that knowledge nor the centering of the parental experience changes my belief that knowingly putting a young person's life on display without their consent is not good for the young person's life experience. Whether the output centers the parental experience or is more egregiously exploitative of the child, mining one's child's life for material is just not something I am ok with. I expressed myself above and continue to feel that way. I don't actually think you got what I was saying bc if you did, you wouldn't have tried to change my mind.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:49 (two months ago) link

sorry for derailing

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:49 (two months ago) link

i find it wild that people answer their phones for someone/thing that is not in their phones' phonebook (this does not apply to old ppl w only land lines)

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, February 16, 2024 9:47 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

when my kids were in day care I had to! they always called from their personal phones to say hey, your kid puked, go pick 'em up

frogbs, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:16 (two months ago) link

LL: I wasn’t trying to change your mind, but fair enough.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:36 (one month ago) link

sorry to derail but where are we talking about the CIA taking $50k from the cut's financial advice columnist for safekeeping?

The bit (assuming the whole thing isn't a bit, so to speak) where the CIA dude gives her a nine-digit case number and she thinks "Hmm, I should check this is on the up-and-up" and googles the case number is amazing.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:56 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

rip vichy deadspin

mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:43 (one month ago) link

congrats Cord Jefferson!

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2024 17:43 (one month ago) link

Good riddance

Just amazing seeing the reactions on Twitter. Literally nobody is shedding a tear for these writers.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link

what is happening

President Keyes, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:38 (one month ago) link

people who complain about sports media are generally one of the worst segments of the internet

I have no idea what's up at deadspin since all the people whose work I liked reading left, but it sucks to be a writer and get laid off! Maybe having little to no budget had a lot to do with that article getting published without editorial oversight or a second person saying "hey, maybe leave this bit out" but I'm sure sports dorks are going to talk about it forever

local sports fans are still weird about some young writer for the paper who got thrown under the bus after a misconstrued interaction with someone he interviewed

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link


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