ur doing it right now, u r turkogluing him
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
and given the black hole that is the miami point guard situation he fills a need, that's probably worth a couple millies per year. his age is concerning but he's not going to fall off a cliff in all likelihood, and his age fits well with bosh/wade's window. it's a good get
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
two first round picks for the honor of maxing dragic out idk man
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
if they max him now before the cap raises it might be fine
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
it might be fine, prob not worth two first round picks tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
Boston Celtics @celtics 2m2 minutes ago View translationNew @Celtics jersey numbers:
Isaiah Thomas - #4Jonas Jerebko - #8Luigi Datome - #70
lol i completely forgot they got two other players
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
p sure those arent real guys
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
tho i do actually remember jerebko having a good game once for the pistons
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
i had doubts myself, damn it danny
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
dragic did have an exceptional season last year but he's been very good for like 4 years now
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
he has not been very good he has been just good
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
he's finishing even better this year than he was last year, his advanced numbers are down a bit due to a downtick in 3pt shooting and a lower usage because of the 3 guard thing. he should dominate the ball in miami plenty
the other interesting thing will be how much leverage the heat lose in contract talks with bosh's health uncertain
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
well if they offer him the 5 year max one wld think hed sign, especially since miami was one of the places he said he wanted to play
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
congrats heat i guess u just bought a 34 y/io goran dragic
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah signing an athletic point guard long term for his past-prime years is risky for sure
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
guess the heat felt like they had a chance to make some noise this year otherwise not sure why u wldnt just wait and try to sign him in the offseason, if u lose out and the knicks can offer him more cause they traded for him its not really the end of the world
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
urgency i guess is understandable w that teams age but still feels overly desperate
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
now if bosh is out obvs its all for naught, crazy timing
dragic cld age decently i guess tho cause hes got size and shooting and overall a pretty crafty game
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
his shooting is not that reliable and he relies a lot on his athleticism + getting to the rim
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
tru
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
tho hes also very crafty re getting to the rim w lots of nifty lil non athletic moves, whether that will be enough when his athleticism goes who knows
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/unnamed-11.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
weird hes so much better straight on from three, maybe thats partially just fluky tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
lame u cant get a career shot chart from nba.com
http://i.imgur.com/FxxDCr7.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Mi1HTgY.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
oh come on he's better than turkoglu ever was, turkoglu was your classic overperforming on a well-coached good team guy, dragic was the best player on his team
― k3vin k., Friday, February 20, 2015 9:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
turkoglu also juiced himself into a great year and massive contract
― Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
turkoglu is very wise
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
giving dragic the 5 year max would be icky but that's true for most any player who wants the max outside of like... 8 of them. if he's really good for the first 3 years of that deal you can accept some backsliding at the end.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
problem is thats the best case scenario
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
the heat basically only build through free agency and trades & they have some cache as a destinatino after the lebron years so i think their thinking is getting dragic congeals the roster into something resembling a good NBA team which might make them attractive to free agents in the next few summers
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
ya maybe tho their best two dudes r aging, still think trying to sign dragic this summer wldve been much wiser
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, February 20, 2015 12:42 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
i think three good to very good years from dragic is more of a likely outcome than a best case one. a best case scenario is that he ages like steve nash. if he ages like tony parker then you'd be pretty okay with paying him a lot of money esp with the cap going up.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
comparing him to two hall of famers is prob not the best place to start
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
i'm not talking about him reaching their level of play as much as just maintaining his own level of play
guys don't start sucking immediately upon turning 30
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
well some do
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
btw jordan i am happy u have stayed a heat fan after bron left
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
yea v cool. altho will he with bosh out is the questions cos bosh is his man
― Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
he has formed an emotional bond which cannot be broken imho thats how it happens
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i haven't seen many games this year since they're on national TV a lot less but i'm still pulling for them
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
chris bosh does have that effect on ppl, I more or less despise the heat and pat riley but have always liked bosh's game and personality and velociraptor-esque yelling faces
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pFKU9dj.jpg
manute bols son http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/23/sports/bol-bol-6-foot-10-son-of-manute-adjusts-to-high-school-basketball.html
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
I just looked at that celtics flowchart until my brain melted and my iPad turned itself off
P lol that perk eventually turned into a bunch of stuff that's still coming up and ol Ray Allen just became nuthin'
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
This Bosh thing is very uncool I hope he is ok and also I want to see what that team could do
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Btw I agree w cad I want a full hour interview with Ahmad rashad that guys sitting on some incredible stories - wtf hanging out with miles Davis watching Monday night football is almost as good as al michaels story about watching the World Series or whatever it was on vhs tape at bill murrays house
Also Kyle Lowry is an excellent interview an I think he could be in sports media someday
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
the bottom of the pierce/garnett column my lord
http://i.imgur.com/0PYXikI.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
jeez someone feed manute bol's son
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
So as resident blood clot expert / experiencer: how the hell did bosh get blood clots? did he have surgery in the past couple of weeks? he's an athlete and he's like 30, so I can't think of anything except some kind of genetic clotting disorder in which case his career could be in jeopardy.
― Clay, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
air travel is a major risk factor
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
more generally immobility such as being on long flights
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
maybe he is smoking and taking the pill too tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link