is there more news?
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
btw jordan bosh was on one of simmons' all-star weekend podcasts you would like it
tbh all 3 of his all-star weekend podcasts were very enjoyable
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, February 20, 2015 10:18 AM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark
heat sources are being leaky
Tom Haberstroh @tomhaberstroh Hearing same that @JoeGoodmanJr reported: Bosh could miss season w blood clot.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
re bosh just glad they caught it that is a super dangerous sitch
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
IT he cn start imo, who knows if he fits in boston, who knows what boston is, cld play next to smart as smart is big enough to guard 2s, having two ball handlers in the backcourt is p cool in todays nba
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah but if smart is big enough to guard 2s that leaves...IT to guard point guards. and point guards are actually good and need to be guarded
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
well regardless when u play him hes not gonna be good at D, but hey a lot of players arent good at D
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
at least he has an excuse
― k3vin k., Friday, February 20, 2015 10:19 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah they were very fun, the 10-minute chat format works well with the players, though tbh i need like an hour of ahmad rashad, that guy is incredible
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
his frank sinatra story omg
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
bernard king was amazing too, the way he broke down the way he approached scoring was almost ted williamsesque
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
after reading some trade deadline reactions ive come to the conclusion goran dragic is the modern day turkoglu, the one player every nba fan is convinced is really good after he had one really good season during a career of pretty good seasons
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
Simmons: I am making this point for the second time this week: Dragic was the fourth-best guard in basketball last season. I voted him second-team All-NBA. There were legitimate reasons why his numbers dropped this year that had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the bizarre but lovable roster that Phoenix slapped together. Miami becomes a title contender if it can get him without touching its top four … at least until we remember that Dwyane Wade couldn’t play 38 MPG for four straight rounds even if Anthony Bosch, Brian McNamee and Ivan Drago’s trainer were training him. But we won’t remember that until, like, late April, right?
bill simmons dragic has a whole career u cn look at btw the stats are avalible online
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
the legacy of the celtics championship team (open in new tab)
http://i.imgur.com/Ep1qC0N.jpg
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Goldsberry: Dragic is really good with the right guys. Last year, Vogel called the Dragic-Frye pick-and-roll “maybe the hardest to cover in the game.”
last year
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
oh come on he's better than turkoglu ever was, turkoglu was your classic overperforming on a well-coached good team guy, dragic was the best player on his team
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
i did love turkoglu tho lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
ur doing it right now, u r turkogluing him
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
and given the black hole that is the miami point guard situation he fills a need, that's probably worth a couple millies per year. his age is concerning but he's not going to fall off a cliff in all likelihood, and his age fits well with bosh/wade's window. it's a good get
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
two first round picks for the honor of maxing dragic out idk man
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
if they max him now before the cap raises it might be fine
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
it might be fine, prob not worth two first round picks tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
Boston Celtics @celtics 2m2 minutes ago View translationNew @Celtics jersey numbers:
Isaiah Thomas - #4Jonas Jerebko - #8Luigi Datome - #70
lol i completely forgot they got two other players
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
p sure those arent real guys
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
tho i do actually remember jerebko having a good game once for the pistons
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
i had doubts myself, damn it danny
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
dragic did have an exceptional season last year but he's been very good for like 4 years now
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
he has not been very good he has been just good
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
he's finishing even better this year than he was last year, his advanced numbers are down a bit due to a downtick in 3pt shooting and a lower usage because of the 3 guard thing. he should dominate the ball in miami plenty
the other interesting thing will be how much leverage the heat lose in contract talks with bosh's health uncertain
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
well if they offer him the 5 year max one wld think hed sign, especially since miami was one of the places he said he wanted to play
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
congrats heat i guess u just bought a 34 y/io goran dragic
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah signing an athletic point guard long term for his past-prime years is risky for sure
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
guess the heat felt like they had a chance to make some noise this year otherwise not sure why u wldnt just wait and try to sign him in the offseason, if u lose out and the knicks can offer him more cause they traded for him its not really the end of the world
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
urgency i guess is understandable w that teams age but still feels overly desperate
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
now if bosh is out obvs its all for naught, crazy timing
dragic cld age decently i guess tho cause hes got size and shooting and overall a pretty crafty game
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
his shooting is not that reliable and he relies a lot on his athleticism + getting to the rim
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
tru
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
tho hes also very crafty re getting to the rim w lots of nifty lil non athletic moves, whether that will be enough when his athleticism goes who knows
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/unnamed-11.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
weird hes so much better straight on from three, maybe thats partially just fluky tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
lame u cant get a career shot chart from nba.com
http://i.imgur.com/FxxDCr7.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Mi1HTgY.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, February 20, 2015 9:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
turkoglu also juiced himself into a great year and massive contract
― Steph def def (Spottie), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
turkoglu is very wise
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
giving dragic the 5 year max would be icky but that's true for most any player who wants the max outside of like... 8 of them. if he's really good for the first 3 years of that deal you can accept some backsliding at the end.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
problem is thats the best case scenario
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
the heat basically only build through free agency and trades & they have some cache as a destinatino after the lebron years so i think their thinking is getting dragic congeals the roster into something resembling a good NBA team which might make them attractive to free agents in the next few summers
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
ya maybe tho their best two dudes r aging, still think trying to sign dragic this summer wldve been much wiser
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, February 20, 2015 12:42 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
i think three good to very good years from dragic is more of a likely outcome than a best case one. a best case scenario is that he ages like steve nash. if he ages like tony parker then you'd be pretty okay with paying him a lot of money esp with the cap going up.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
comparing him to two hall of famers is prob not the best place to start
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link