Norm
(u know, the guy who called Michael Jackson a "homosexual child molester" on WU once)
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
EM staying away from SNL for 20 years bcz David Spade called him "a falling star" is multileveled hilarity.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
I just noticed this in the 25th season wiki entry. Anyone know if this contract is still used?
In July 1999, when executive producer Lorne Michaels held auditions for the season, NBC introduced a new contract for first-year cast members, replacing the five- or six-year deals they had used in the past.[1] The terms were established by NBC executives Scott Sassa and Garth Ancier. According to Peter Bogdanovich, the new contract came with the following terms:[1] NBC can take a Saturday Night Live cast member off the show any time after his or her second year on the program and put him or her in an NBC sitcom. A cast member has the option of saying no to the first two shows proposed by NBC, but must accept the third deal. NBC dictates the length of the sitcom contract, which can run as long as six years. SNL Films, co-owned by Paramount Pictures, NBC and Lorne Michaels, has a three-movie option that would pay the star a set $75,000 for the first film, $150,000 for the second and $300,000 for the third, rates that used to be negotiable. NBC has the option of paying those same amount to force a cast member to say no to a film deal offered to them by another studio.The starting salary remained $5,000 per episode.[1]
NBC can take a Saturday Night Live cast member off the show any time after his or her second year on the program and put him or her in an NBC sitcom. A cast member has the option of saying no to the first two shows proposed by NBC, but must accept the third deal. NBC dictates the length of the sitcom contract, which can run as long as six years. SNL Films, co-owned by Paramount Pictures, NBC and Lorne Michaels, has a three-movie option that would pay the star a set $75,000 for the first film, $150,000 for the second and $300,000 for the third, rates that used to be negotiable. NBC has the option of paying those same amount to force a cast member to say no to a film deal offered to them by another studio.
The starting salary remained $5,000 per episode.[1]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
A cast member has the option of saying no to the first two shows proposed by NBC, but must accept the third deal.
This is some Lady or the Tiger doomladen shit
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Norm's the funniest standup comic alive and it's not even close
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
i saw him perform in LA 18 months ago and he wasn't the funniest on the bill
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
(certainly funnier than he was on SNL, but that's a low bar)
stand-up isn't really Norm's strong suit, I would agree that he's the funniest guy alive who does standup though
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
I'd totally forgotten until I saw his name in the credits recently that, while he was on SNL, he was also writing for Roseanne during that show's heyday.
― Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
so Norm's strong suit is talk-show guest or tweeter, then?
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Don't forget 'roaster'.
― Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
a talented, nice — talk show guest.
― example (crüt), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
"Sports Show" was pretty great
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Sports Show was good. His Safe Auto insurance commercials are/were dumb.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Morbs please: Norm's "homosexual child molester" joke was a spokesman for MJ explaining the separation from Lisa Marie Presley on account of their moving in different directions: "She's more of a stay-at-home mom, and he's a homosexual child molester."
Nothing about the joke suggests a link between homosexuality and child molestation. It's funny because LMP is not a man or a child.
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 20 February 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
But if you find a comic unlikeable it doesn't matter. I laugh just watching NM chew gum.
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 20 February 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
I was never a huge Norm fan, but he was probably the funniest guest I've ever seen on The Daily Show. It couldn't have been more than a week after the Crocodile Hunter guy died, and Norm riffed on him for maybe five solid minutes ("He was 44 years old; that's a ripe old age for a crocodile hunter!") I swear Stewart was weeping with laughter.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 February 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qODmxg_dUuI
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
I was a big Norm fan before he got the SNL gig. Strangly people I talk to irl all seem to think his WU was the show's nadir, or perhaps a notch above Colin Quinn.
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
That's because his Weekend Update was terrible and only slightly better than Colin Quinn. I never saw Rocket so I can't compare to his tenure but I liked every other WU anchor I've seen more, including Brad Hall and Kevin Nealon.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
i love norm. every time he speaks i laugh. and his burt reynolds is hilarious too.
― Mordy, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Prefer norm WU to Quinn and nealon for having a strong comic persona but compared to a lot of others his WU was pretty monotonous. Part of why he's so good at mocking letterman and Reynolds' indifferent reliance in shtick is cuz he relates
― da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Colin Quinn is one of the worst comedians I've ever seen, not because he has no jokes but because he seems to be physically incapable of delivering them.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
^^^^
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
his ability to have a career at all baffles me
yeah for me it's
quinn: "jesus can you get the fucking out joke out you incompetent..."nealon: "hey dude got any jokes for me?"mcdonald: "yeah that was a good joke the first dozen times you told it...ok stop looking at me, dude, and tell the next one...c'mon"
― da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
did Jane Curtin make the anniv? She sniffs quite a lot about SNL, i guess cuz two tripe sitcoms made her rich.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
she did WU with poehler and fey
― da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
talked about showing her boobs
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
CQ is pretty funny on Twitter though
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
Norm's 'Me Doing Standup' is my favorite comedy album. I don't remember his WU very well. I'm looking forward to any Norm bits in the Miller and Shales book.
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Norm on WU is the thing I most looked forward to during that era of SNL. Granted, there wasn't much else to look forward to during that era of SNL.
― Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
I like Colin Quinn. On Weekend Update and in general.
Jane Curtin got a lot of time doing WU w/ Tina and Amy and a much reposted joke Fox News.
― dan selzer, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
The thing I like about Norm is the perpetual glint in his eye, like he knows he's going to far and is willing to be not funny just for the sake of that knowledge. Like his infamous roast performance, or this, which actually is funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F6dXcW-_Fc
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
Harry Shearer had some fun anti-SNL and Lorne stuff on yesterday's WTF episode.
― polyphonic, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
lol at Shearer's bit about Lorne's "I've never hired a Jewish male before"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
I completely forgot that Norm HOSTED in 1999?!
― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Like riding high on the non-existent success of Dirty Work and the Norm Show?
― pro stroke Johnny Gill songs would rub you the right way (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Shearer provided a pretty good explanation of why no one has their lines memorized---Lorne waiting til the last minute to decide which sketches will run
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah i remember he mentioned in the monologue about being fired the year before, but now suddenly being "good enough" to host the show and how weird it was
― Nhex, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of getting fired, everyone's been focusing on Eddie but it's kind of a big deal that Sandler came back for the anniversary, too. Hadn't he pretty much washed his hands of that place?
― Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Sandler always kept ties to the show by employing his castmates
Murphy never did this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Spade, Rock, Schneider etc. - Sandler keeps these guys working
(well ok maybe not Rock)
see why would we beat up on Norm when Schneider exists
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I wish we'd seen more of that copy guy character
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
It's never too late for a movie.
― Oh, Delicious! (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
I went to look up Rob Schneider's filmography and was slightly floored by the fact that dude is 51.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
anyway his last starring role was as recent as 5 years ago, which I find amazing
maybe there's hope for The Hot Chick 2
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
He had a TV show called "Rob" as recently as 2012
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link