Aliens

cool will read

first reaction its a bloody marketing ploy for Prometheus bloody two tho

ah wikipedia

Also, he has claimed that the red rain in Kerala is a biological entity, which is huge if true.[6]

Lol The microbiologist they are quoting has been dead for a decade!

there's a lot if that on ilx recently, cf rolling obit thread.

maybe ilx is purgatory and anyone we mention can reliably be presumed deceased by now

CONTROVERSIAL LIST REDACTED

directed panspermia as a potential origin of life on earth is interesting

it's also compelling, to me, to you bake in the notion that there are alien communication signals out there that we've yet to develop the capacity to collect--as if the seeds were planted with a tape recorder, and barring a downward shift in technological development we plants might any day now figure out how to press play

Modern views of abiogenesis (esp recent ones focused on deep sea alkaline hydrothermal vents) are adequate to account for an independent arising of microbes on Earth some 3.8-4.3 billion years ago, and there's no extant evidence of latter arrivals. All life uses essentially the same energy apparatus and genetic code, though there are enough differences between Eubacteria (on one side) and Archaea / Eukaryotes to suggest DNA replication and membrane synthesis either diverged extremely early or had two independent origins.

That's not to say that it had to be on Earth. Earth gets peppered with bolide ejecta from Mars on a regular basis, and some microbes seem to survive long passages through the radiation and vacumn of space. It's plausible that life first originated on Mars, and supplanted feeble early attempts on Earth; or vice versa. Moreover, the solar system regularly passes through regions of higher stellar density, where life conceivably could be exchanged between systems. Enough generations of this, with sufficiently durable microbes, and in time every remotely habitable planet in the galaxy could be exposed to life from a single origin. Not directed panspermia, just the numbers game of nonnillion microbes on Earth, trillions ejected into space, handfuls still viable upon landing elsewhere. That may be the fate of our galaxy. More terrifyingly, its plausible that another, fundamentally more efficient form of microbial life could be making the rounds, and just hasn't landed here, yet.

As for the Fermi paradox, it appears complex life (eukaryotes) evolved only once on Earth. The universe may be teeming with microbes, but the transition to complex life is far more fraught. Intelligence doesn't seem much of a bulwark against environmental/civilizational collapse, indeed any evolved dominant species may follow have resource demand/social status perogatives incompatible with preserving its own cradle. And given any species that can dominate a planet is likely rapacious, those few that manage to adopt sustainable behavior, suitable to finite planets or colonization ships, may find preemptively exterminating others an imperative. The smarter species, recognizing this, would lay low, and not broadcast their presence.

i’m with terence mckenna, mushrooms are extraterrestrial in origin

*sees through time, dies*

Astronomers have spotted a second repeating fast radio burst, and it looks a lot like the first. The existence of a second repeating burst suggests there could be many more of the mysterious signals in the cosmos.

The burst, called FRB 180814.J0422+73, is one of 13 newly discovered fast radio bursts, or FRBs — brief, bright signals of radio energy that come from distant galaxies. The FRBs were detected over a few weeks last year by the Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment, or CHIME, in British Columbia. Astronomers reported the discoveries at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society on January 7 and in the Jan. 9 Nature.

Most such bursts erupt once, last for a few milliseconds, and are never seen again. So astronomers have puzzled over what causes them for years.

“If you have something that flashes for a millisecond in the sky, and there’s nothing that happens for many years, it’s really hard to study,” says astronomer Shriharsh Tendulkar of McGill University in Montreal, a member of the CHIME team....

Astronomers’ theories for what causes FRBs are almost as numerous as known FRBs themselves. At one point, astronomers even considered the idea that FRBs could be signals from intelligent aliens. But it’s unclear if the repeating bursts and single bursts both come from the same kinds of sources, or even if one-offs might also repeat if watched for long enough.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/second-repeating-fast-radio-burst-tracked-distant-galaxy

"Calculations show that the new repeater is about 1.6 billion light-years away. The CHIME team also saw an odd similarity between the two known repeating bursts. Most FRBs are just a sharp blip, akin to a single note being played on a trumpet. But some of the individual bursts in both repeaters were made up of multiple sub-bursts that descended in frequency, like the “wah wah wah wah” of a sad trombone."

I think someone is bouncing our old sitcom soundtracks back to us

hey guys
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/ufos-the-central-intelligence-agency-cia-collection/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/16/pentagon-ufos-leaked-photos-uap

As I posted on the other thread earlier today, this is being handled by the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, which is a real missed opportunity for Space Force.

Hey man, they have a whole lotta space to enforce without worrying about the unidentified objects flying through that space.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/03/us/politics/ufos-sighting-alien-spacecraft-pentagon.html

starting to think this is mostly just some radar spoofing tech

Why, aren't there a lot of visual reports too?

This guy is a pretty obsessive debunker, iirc, almost to a fault, but this was a pretty easy demonstration of one sighting's possible cause:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r2oaQWmqkk

the most compelling are the GIMBAL and GOFAST videos and that's all just instrument footage

Btw this was a good overview article (covers Mick West, Leslie Kean, etc):
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously

yeah, I liked that article, but like a lot of reporting it felt pretty incomplete, because it has to be incomplete, because unidentified aerial phenomena etc.

the officially sanctioned 'disclosure' with elizondo et al is now alluding to remote viewing, skinwalkers, and all kinds of batshit stuff. it's been hugely entertaining to casually pay attention but i still don't understand the 'why'. concealing tech would have been one thing but now i think they're trying to drive people insane/divert from qanon? they're basically restarting the ufo cults

i mean, look at this shit. it has a harry reid quote on the cover!

https://www.amazon.com/Skinwalkers-Pentagon-Insiders-Account-Government/dp/B09HR54GQF

also i’ve bought some jacque vallee books. man is fascinating

Jacques Vallée is a seriously cool dude

I quite enjoy the pic in that first post Guardian article

it’s slightly lonely being a left wing UFO guy since it's the purview of so many art bell adjacent cranks, but can someone here please explain to me why the government tried to pass a bill saying they would seize technology of nonhuman origin from military contractors and then why did the contractors use their influence to scuttle the important parts of the bill if there is nothing there and it’s all a distraction or whatever. facts and logic me please. this has been deeply fascinating and weird to follow the last few years and the topic and it’s ‘lore’ has never gotten to the level of actual legislation before

https://i.imgur.com/yHaYFOC.png
https://i.imgur.com/mnDTjL5.png
https://i.imgur.com/6d67dbl.png
https://i.imgur.com/lkN0EGl.png

yes i want to believe etc etc but what is going on here

'mirage men' the book goes into the extensive history of intel services using UFO shit as a smokescreen for advanced projects but to my knowledge the civilian branches have never bitten to this extent

government passing a bill is easy - if there's something there they want to know, if not then no harm. plus as mirage men shows, gullible & venal senators are happy to sign up to anything that sees money coming their way. don't know about the contractors - healthy and sensible scepticism? don't know the ins & outs of what you're referring to though.

"non-human intelligence"?