RÓISÍN MURPHY

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New track out and album announced:

http://pitchfork.com/news/58494-roisin-murphy-announces-hairless-toys-lp-shares-gone-fishing/

― daavid, Monday, February 16, 2015 4:10 PM (1 hour ago)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 February 2015 22:54 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ym6Fsxp.jpg

01 Gone Fishing
02 Evil Eyes
03 Exploitation
04 Uninvited Guest
05 Exile
06 House of Glass
07 Hairless Toys (Gotta Hurt)
08 Unputdownable

Eight songs seems like not a lot after such a long wait, but maybe (I hope?) they're eight REALLY GOOD songs. "Gone Fishing" portends good things imo.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:00 (five years ago) link

It's getting better with every listen. It may be my favorite song of the year so far.

daavid, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 00:41 (five years ago) link

It really is so good.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 00:42 (five years ago) link

I especially love the pitch-shifting 'strings'

daavid, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 00:43 (five years ago) link

Just listened to it three times in a row, agree with daavid it's probably the best thing I've heard so far this year.

ewar woowar (or something), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 11:42 (five years ago) link

the songs are long - "Exploitation" cracks nine minutes acc to itunes

Anyway this song is great!

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 February 2015 13:55 (five years ago) link

Going Fishing travels so many places in six minutes. I typically have "long-song ADD" but I sort of trust her to not let me down in this regard.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:03 (five years ago) link

I like that it works out she's spent one year per song on this new album. Judging by Gone Fishing this album is going to be worth the wait.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 19:52 (five years ago) link

http://www.factmag.com/2015/02/23/roisin-murphy-release-jealousy-12-crosstown-rebels/

"Ahead of Hairless Toys, her first solo album in eight years, Róisín Murphy has recorded a club-focused 12″ for Damian Lazarus’ Crosstown Rebels label."

There's not really much to the "house mix," a youtube of which is embedded at that link, but I'm quite interested in hearing the "disco mix".

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:52 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

somehow only just heard "jealousy" - it's amazing, both mixes, actually much more so than "gone fishing" which underwhelmed a bit in the end

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:16 (five years ago) link

And here's Exploitation... http://pitchfork.com/news/58951-roisin-murphy-shares-exploitation/

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:22 (five years ago) link

Don't know if it's amazing or insane. Or both.

daavid, Thursday, 26 March 2015 00:45 (five years ago) link

Murphy occupies a unique position, the gay diva with a library, reclining before floor-to-ceiling shelves in interviews. Shes a nutter but she's our nutter.

You and your damn elves, I'm sick of it! (Sanpaku), Friday, 27 March 2015 01:22 (five years ago) link

I've probably said that about the Unabomber on other forums.

I'm a softer being.

You and your damn elves, I'm sick of it! (Sanpaku), Friday, 27 March 2015 01:25 (five years ago) link

(comma, after momentary sobriety), now.

You and your damn elves, I'm sick of it! (Sanpaku), Friday, 27 March 2015 01:28 (five years ago) link

I want to like the disco mix of "Jealousy" but hearing the sampled guitar from Ahzz's "New York's Moving" without the synths is killing me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2epRXRFmU

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 28 March 2015 01:57 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The album is out there now. It's really beautiful.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 April 2015 16:55 (five years ago) link

oooh yes!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 12 April 2015 16:57 (five years ago) link

I'm still absorbing it but there are definitely a bunch of OMFG moments

bae sremmurd (monotony), Sunday, 12 April 2015 21:32 (five years ago) link

Video for "Exploitation"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjSwFsPCeJ4#t=143

daavid, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:50 (five years ago) link

that video makes me want a boiled egg

cerealbar, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:56 (five years ago) link

album version is too long though (maybe)

cerealbar, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:58 (five years ago) link

this bangs and is weird

i.e. in character

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 23:52 (five years ago) link

I can't unsee Dolores O'Riordan.

StanM, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 01:52 (five years ago) link

i really don't know what i think of the album yet but it feels like she's tiptoeing around the concept somewhat. which she should, to be fair, because it's a minefield, but it ends up so careful. some very impressive moments w/r/t structure, arrangements etc but she never goes for it at any point? when "jealousy" comes on afterwards it feels a billion times more alive.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 07:57 (five years ago) link

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

"jealousy" is great obv but a different thing

re: the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLoyu9PcmBc

bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 13:32 (five years ago) link

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

i think it comes at the expense of any real emotional pull tbh. it's a very tasteful and accomplished concept album but it feels like RM knew that the entire thing had to be handled with care - straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences, how could it possibly go wrong - and it ended up a touch too sensitive, maybe. idk, i'm still getting to grips with it but i'm not exactly drawn to put it on much, and when i do i find myself appreciating it on a head level way more than on a heart level.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:10 (five years ago) link

haven't yet seen an interview with her, would have pitched but it's not as if i know a huge amount about the paris is burning era either, lol

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:11 (five years ago) link

I was about to ask: where are you getting the info about the album? I'd love to read it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:20 (five years ago) link

the initial press bumpf i presume, not any in-depth feature

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:23 (five years ago) link

yeah the press release she wrote:

This song was written after I watched the documentary film Paris Is Burning, having read an article which referenced it in a discussion about House music's origins in black, gay culture. I was deeply moved by this film. 'I had to run this far from home' - it's about the outcasts who could never fit into mainstream society and how they created a safe place in the drag 'Ball' scene of New York in the ‘80s. 'Will we live on? The children of La Beija' refers to the 'house' of Pepper La Beija, who was one of the most notable figures on the scene, Pepper is also quoted in Malcolm McLaren's song on the same subject 'Deep In Vogue'. The culture was a flamboyant reaction to persecution and disillusionment, the imagination and bravery of these kids is simply awe-inspiring. I envisioned 'Gone Fishing' almost as a song from a Broadway musical version of this story. The making of one's own world, a safer world and the creation of a new, better family in music or youth culture is a theme I touch upon elsewhere on my album Hairless Toys.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:23 (five years ago) link

straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences

afaict this only applies to "gone fishing"

i haven't studied the lyrics or anything but she seems to return to those themes pretty consistently throughout

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:31 (five years ago) link

hm well neither have i tbh

also it feels very weird at a time when the ballroom scene seems so healthy for RM to reference it so explicitly as an influence but not go anywhere near it sonically

lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:39 (five years ago) link

Murphy's seems to have been adopted by the transgenderqueer (etc., I don't keep up) community for a while.

Dreyfuss levels of hopeless romantic (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:56 (five years ago) link

's (Video is one of several unofficial fan videos for "Simulation" featuring trangender peeps - parts might be unsafe for some workplaces)

Dreyfuss levels of hopeless romantic (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:59 (five years ago) link

i feel like the new record is kind of a sister (or cousin) to last year's mr twin sister album

j. winters (josh), Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:04 (five years ago) link

Hmm, hadn't thought about that, but makes sense on the surface.

I'm definitely a fan of the straightforwardness of Overpowered. This one takes more dedication to love, like Ruby Blue did imo.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 April 2015 04:05 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

been listening to this a lot lately and came across a track-by-track where she basically confirms that only "gone fishing" is about balling, the rest is about her strange interior life. was surprised to find out "exploitation" is literally about sex but in retrospect it's obvious

anyway this is still one of my favorite records of the year, though it makes more sense as a follow up to ruby blue than overpowered. "unputdownable" prob one of my favorite love songs of all time at this point

i waited so long for a new RM album but now there is one i couldn't care less, it's weird.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:41 (five years ago) link

I played it a lot in late May but haven't returned to it. Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:43 (five years ago) link

gonna give it my first shot in weeks b/c Brad.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:43 (five years ago) link

yeah really liking unputdownable, thanks Brad. I think i was put off by the single with the queazy speeding-slowing thing going on. hated that.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:46 (five years ago) link

Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.

sympathetic to this but i think i like it bc of how pared down and nervously quiet it is

also i'm a real sucker for the jazzy guitar runs in "exploitation" and "house of glass"

Any idea what happened to them?

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:30 (one week ago) link

One of them was also half of Still Going. It's possible HoH only ever intended to do the one single and just got a few remix gigs off the back of it.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:47 (one week ago) link

what a single though!

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:53 (one week ago) link

for those who have never heard it, this is the House of House single we're talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLJ7-SO4Ag

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:26 (one week ago) link

if the other four tracks are as good as the six we've already heard this will surely be her best album?

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 05:41 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ8dJ4b4zMA

interestingly this version of "jealousy" transitions from the disco mix to the house mix at the end, i wonder if that's what the album edit will be like? the album edit is around 4 minutes

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 05:51 (one week ago) link

the new single might be the best one yet

monotony, Friday, 31 July 2020 08:20 (one week ago) link

from the press bio:

"Although packed to the rafters with masterclass singles, including 'Simulation', 'Jealousy', 'Incapable', 'Narcissus' and 'Murphy’s Law', it is also an ingeniously and seamlessly edited listening experience, designed to be listened to in one uninterrupted sitting, from start to dazzling finish."

winters (josh), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:21 (one week ago) link

xp though at the same time i've returned to "murphy's law" over and over in lockdown to the point where it's pretty well solidified as one of my top songs of 2020

monotony, Friday, 31 July 2020 08:21 (one week ago) link

good spot!

I'm totally into the idea of the album being a tight comp of edits of bongers we already know, though it has the potential of being a waste without radio play to send ppl out to earning appearances by Mickey Murphy's Daughter :(

(xpost ooh)

I hope they've tightened up Simulation, it really drags on.

drunk midnight youtubing, it also turns out there was an eight-minute cutdown of the 12-minute original for the Simulation video btw

if the other four tracks are as good as the six we've already heard this will surely be her best album?

the first two solo albums are still very good! but no problem assuming this will be on par with those, and it's lovely that she's held onto the Parrot collaboration so long and finally made a single album out of their work.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:29 (one week ago) link

the album version of simulation is 8 min but a little longer than the video edit

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 08:33 (one week ago) link

vinyl pre-ordered. saddened by absence of jacuzzi rollercoaster on the album.

closed beta (NotEnough), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:53 (one week ago) link

This album is all Crooked Man joints! Jacuzzi Rollercoaster was one of eight tracks on her Maurice Fulton collab 12"s

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 09:00 (one week ago) link

it would have been nice if she'd put out an album compiling those 2018 singles but you can just do that yourself at least

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 09:42 (one week ago) link

"Something More" is new on UK Spotify today: 4:01 edit, 7:57 extended.

mike t-diva, Friday, 31 July 2020 11:28 (one week ago) link

“The album is called Róisín Machine because I am a machine. I never stop.”

winters (josh), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:53 (one week ago) link

omg "something more." just imagining the silly shit i would pull to this on the dance floor.

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:59 (one week ago) link

i would pre-order but i'm not sure if i would ever get it :|. ordered a PAN vinyl in may and i think it's still in the uk.

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:06 (one week ago) link

This album is all Crooked Man joints!

Is it all Parrot? Don't get me wrong, I like each of these tracks, to a point, sometimes a high point, but most of them really do drag. Almost every one outstays it's welcome and even though this bpm is *very me* I want them to be zippier. There's a lethargy in them that I find a bit depressing. I'm sure that's a very unpopular opinion on here, though.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:56 (one week ago) link

It's quite possible that R Machine feels the same way, actually, as she mentioned on something (was it the chat with Jessie Ware?) that the parrot collab was done now.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:00 (one week ago) link

“Róisín Machine is the culmination of a rich, decades-long partnership between Murphy and one of her most trusted collaborators Crooked Man aka DJ Parrot.”

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:11 (one week ago) link

while I'm c+p'ing, Something More was written by Amy Douglas:

"I asked her to write me a song about never being full or satisfied, exponential need," Murphy says. "She sent a very basic but brilliant demo very soon after, just her singing and playing a piano. The challenge then is to get the music direction right, the arrangement and the voicing."

Murphy described "Something More" as "a swansong to how we once lived, there's plenty of bravado in the lyrics and the character is a kind of antihero but the indefinable yearning and the feeling of arriving at a point of emptiness is universal right now!"

I'm assuming the Amy Douglas who is half of Peach Melba with Juan Maclean

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:15 (one week ago) link

Never Saw It Coming Amy/Parrot joint was probably my tune of 2019. Amazing that she wrote Something More! She's quite the force of nature.

again, for those that haven't heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_IWcNfJOk

And yes, sic, I know what people write in press releases!

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:32 (one week ago) link

Never Saw It Coming is one of those rare tracks where I/you thought, "oh I haven't heard this track for years"/"oh fuck, this is brand new!" when it came out. I think it was/is a classic straight off the bat. You felt like you knew it as soon as you heard it.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:35 (one week ago) link

although this is ABSOLUTELY THEE VERSION of Never Saw It Coming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4n52BSVz5c

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:47 (one week ago) link

Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 31 July 2020 23:49 (one week ago) link

"inside, there's nothing left
here's a pencil, go and draw your breath"

fkng amazing.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 00:06 (six days ago) link

Had never heard that - thanks! (FYI discogs says two remixes by Crooked Man, but the original is written with and produced by a NYC guy)

I guess the press release doesn't say that anyone else didn't produce anything on Machine, but it does seem to intentionally imply that it's all Parrot.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:27 (six days ago) link

here's the audio for the full-length Something More btw

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:29 (six days ago) link

she previously said before the album was announced that it was all produced by him?

ufo, Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:33 (six days ago) link

Had never heard that - thanks!

Very happy to have introduced you to it but amazed as well, sic, wtf?!

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:59 (six days ago) link

I'm gen. amazed!

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:00 (six days ago) link

I'm delighted, tbh.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:06 (six days ago) link

I have played that out in Glasgow and had a room of people singing every word of the track. That probably says a lot about Glasgow and also skews my perception of the general reception of the track.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:15 (six days ago) link

she previously said before the album was announced that it was all produced by him?

The quote in Josh's revive a month ago still only implies it, now I look again. It's a pretty safe bet though!

We can treat that Amy Douglas jam as a sister song to the Roisin album

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:24 (six days ago) link

totally. best sister.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:39 (six days ago) link

sic, also worth checking out "Walls (Subsidence version)" by crooked man w/ Amy Douglas. I won't embed it, I don't want to turn this into an Amy Douglas thread.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:47 (six days ago) link

it's all Parrot

winters (josh), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:12 (six days ago) link

Damn, all this Amy Douglas stuff on Spotify is HOT!!!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:17 (six days ago) link

Love “Never Saw It Coming”, but prefer the Crooked Man Remix to the Dub.

Tim F, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:25 (six days ago) link

Amy on writing for Roisin, last October:

I’m starting to write songs for Róisín Murphy. That’s another biggie. I have a very deep and meaningful relationship with Ms. Murphy. Whenever I hear myself say that, I get a lump in my throat because I can’t even really believe that I’m saying it. She and I are linked, and that’s forever, and yeah, so I’m starting to write songs for her upcoming ventures, some of which will be duets, some of which will be solo stuff. We’re not even sure what it is.

Basically, my task was to go home and fuckin’ write songs… mother fucker. If she had told me to get on all fours and bark like a dog for 37 hours, I probably would have been grateful to do so.

Turns out they met when Douglas was in London to record for a duo project she has coming up with Joe Goddard. Roisin invited her to a seminar Weatherall was holding - Amy credits Weatherall with breaking Never Saw It Coming - and they went out on the lash afterward.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 09:34 (six days ago) link

I've always known it's pronounced Ro-sheen but that doesn't stop my stupid brain from reading it as Roy-sin every single time xps

― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:17 PM (three days ago)

I think the point is it's actually rosh-in

― or something, Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:20 PM (three days ago)

Nah, the fada over the 'ó' and 'í' generally indicates a long vowel, so it is indeed Row-Sheen. Up north, we pronounce it Rosh-sheen, but that wouldn't be the case in Leinster (where Ms. Murphy is from).

Number None, Sunday, 2 August 2020 10:19 (five days ago) link


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