RÓISÍN MURPHY

New track out and album announced:

http://pitchfork.com/news/58494-roisin-murphy-announces-hairless-toys-lp-shares-gone-fishing/

― daavid, Monday, February 16, 2015 4:10 PM (1 hour ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ym6Fsxp.jpg

01 Gone Fishing
02 Evil Eyes
03 Exploitation
04 Uninvited Guest
05 Exile
06 House of Glass
07 Hairless Toys (Gotta Hurt)
08 Unputdownable

Eight songs seems like not a lot after such a long wait, but maybe (I hope?) they're eight REALLY GOOD songs. "Gone Fishing" portends good things imo.

It's getting better with every listen. It may be my favorite song of the year so far.

It really is so good.

I especially love the pitch-shifting 'strings'

Just listened to it three times in a row, agree with daavid it's probably the best thing I've heard so far this year.

the songs are long - "Exploitation" cracks nine minutes acc to itunes

Anyway this song is great!

Going Fishing travels so many places in six minutes. I typically have "long-song ADD" but I sort of trust her to not let me down in this regard.

I like that it works out she's spent one year per song on this new album. Judging by Gone Fishing this album is going to be worth the wait.

http://www.factmag.com/2015/02/23/roisin-murphy-release-jealousy-12-crosstown-rebels/

"Ahead of Hairless Toys, her first solo album in eight years, Róisín Murphy has recorded a club-focused 12″ for Damian Lazarus’ Crosstown Rebels label."

There's not really much to the "house mix," a youtube of which is embedded at that link, but I'm quite interested in hearing the "disco mix".

somehow only just heard "jealousy" - it's amazing, both mixes, actually much more so than "gone fishing" which underwhelmed a bit in the end

And here's Exploitation... http://pitchfork.com/news/58951-roisin-murphy-shares-exploitation/

Don't know if it's amazing or insane. Or both.

Murphy occupies a unique position, the gay diva with a library, reclining before floor-to-ceiling shelves in interviews. Shes a nutter but she's our nutter.

I've probably said that about the Unabomber on other forums.

I'm a softer being.

(comma, after momentary sobriety), now.

I want to like the disco mix of "Jealousy" but hearing the sampled guitar from Ahzz's "New York's Moving" without the synths is killing me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2epRXRFmU

The album is out there now. It's really beautiful.

oooh yes!

I'm still absorbing it but there are definitely a bunch of OMFG moments

Video for "Exploitation"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjSwFsPCeJ4#t=143

that video makes me want a boiled egg

album version is too long though (maybe)

this bangs and is weird

i.e. in character

I can't unsee Dolores O'Riordan.

i really don't know what i think of the album yet but it feels like she's tiptoeing around the concept somewhat. which she should, to be fair, because it's a minefield, but it ends up so careful. some very impressive moments w/r/t structure, arrangements etc but she never goes for it at any point? when "jealousy" comes on afterwards it feels a billion times more alive.

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

"jealousy" is great obv but a different thing

re: the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLoyu9PcmBc

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

i think it comes at the expense of any real emotional pull tbh. it's a very tasteful and accomplished concept album but it feels like RM knew that the entire thing had to be handled with care - straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences, how could it possibly go wrong - and it ended up a touch too sensitive, maybe. idk, i'm still getting to grips with it but i'm not exactly drawn to put it on much, and when i do i find myself appreciating it on a head level way more than on a heart level.

haven't yet seen an interview with her, would have pitched but it's not as if i know a huge amount about the paris is burning era either, lol

I was about to ask: where are you getting the info about the album? I'd love to read it.

the initial press bumpf i presume, not any in-depth feature

yeah the press release she wrote:

This song was written after I watched the documentary film Paris Is Burning, having read an article which referenced it in a discussion about House music's origins in black, gay culture. I was deeply moved by this film. 'I had to run this far from home' - it's about the outcasts who could never fit into mainstream society and how they created a safe place in the drag 'Ball' scene of New York in the ‘80s. 'Will we live on? The children of La Beija' refers to the 'house' of Pepper La Beija, who was one of the most notable figures on the scene, Pepper is also quoted in Malcolm McLaren's song on the same subject 'Deep In Vogue'. The culture was a flamboyant reaction to persecution and disillusionment, the imagination and bravery of these kids is simply awe-inspiring. I envisioned 'Gone Fishing' almost as a song from a Broadway musical version of this story. The making of one's own world, a safer world and the creation of a new, better family in music or youth culture is a theme I touch upon elsewhere on my album Hairless Toys.

straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences

afaict this only applies to "gone fishing"

i haven't studied the lyrics or anything but she seems to return to those themes pretty consistently throughout

hm well neither have i tbh

also it feels very weird at a time when the ballroom scene seems so healthy for RM to reference it so explicitly as an influence but not go anywhere near it sonically

Murphy's seems to have been adopted by the transgenderqueer (etc., I don't keep up) community for a while.

's (Video is one of several unofficial fan videos for "Simulation" featuring trangender peeps - parts might be unsafe for some workplaces)

i feel like the new record is kind of a sister (or cousin) to last year's mr twin sister album

Hmm, hadn't thought about that, but makes sense on the surface.

I'm definitely a fan of the straightforwardness of Overpowered. This one takes more dedication to love, like Ruby Blue did imo.

been listening to this a lot lately and came across a track-by-track where she basically confirms that only "gone fishing" is about balling, the rest is about her strange interior life. was surprised to find out "exploitation" is literally about sex but in retrospect it's obvious

anyway this is still one of my favorite records of the year, though it makes more sense as a follow up to ruby blue than overpowered. "unputdownable" prob one of my favorite love songs of all time at this point

i waited so long for a new RM album but now there is one i couldn't care less, it's weird.

I played it a lot in late May but haven't returned to it. Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.

gonna give it my first shot in weeks b/c Brad.

yeah really liking unputdownable, thanks Brad. I think i was put off by the single with the queazy speeding-slowing thing going on. hated that.

Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.

sympathetic to this but i think i like it bc of how pared down and nervously quiet it is

also i'm a real sucker for the jazzy guitar runs in "exploitation" and "house of glass"

Any idea what happened to them?

One of them was also half of Still Going. It's possible HoH only ever intended to do the one single and just got a few remix gigs off the back of it.

what a single though!

https://az705183.vo.msecnd.net/onlinesupportmedia/onlinesupport/media/skype/fa300xx/headphones_40x40.gif

for those who have never heard it, this is the House of House single we're talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLJ7-SO4Ag

if the other four tracks are as good as the six we've already heard this will surely be her best album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ8dJ4b4zMA

interestingly this version of "jealousy" transitions from the disco mix to the house mix at the end, i wonder if that's what the album edit will be like? the album edit is around 4 minutes

the new single might be the best one yet

from the press bio:

"Although packed to the rafters with masterclass singles, including 'Simulation', 'Jealousy', 'Incapable', 'Narcissus' and 'Murphy’s Law', it is also an ingeniously and seamlessly edited listening experience, designed to be listened to in one uninterrupted sitting, from start to dazzling finish."

xp though at the same time i've returned to "murphy's law" over and over in lockdown to the point where it's pretty well solidified as one of my top songs of 2020

good spot!

I'm totally into the idea of the album being a tight comp of edits of bongers we already know, though it has the potential of being a waste without radio play to send ppl out to earning appearances by Mickey Murphy's Daughter :(

(xpost ooh)

I hope they've tightened up Simulation, it really drags on.

drunk midnight youtubing, it also turns out there was an eight-minute cutdown of the 12-minute original for the Simulation video btw

if the other four tracks are as good as the six we've already heard this will surely be her best album?

the first two solo albums are still very good! but no problem assuming this will be on par with those, and it's lovely that she's held onto the Parrot collaboration so long and finally made a single album out of their work.

the album version of simulation is 8 min but a little longer than the video edit

vinyl pre-ordered. saddened by absence of jacuzzi rollercoaster on the album.

This album is all Crooked Man joints! Jacuzzi Rollercoaster was one of eight tracks on her Maurice Fulton collab 12"s

it would have been nice if she'd put out an album compiling those 2018 singles but you can just do that yourself at least

"Something More" is new on UK Spotify today: 4:01 edit, 7:57 extended.

“The album is called Róisín Machine because I am a machine. I never stop.”

omg "something more." just imagining the silly shit i would pull to this on the dance floor.

i would pre-order but i'm not sure if i would ever get it :|. ordered a PAN vinyl in may and i think it's still in the uk.

This album is all Crooked Man joints!

Is it all Parrot? Don't get me wrong, I like each of these tracks, to a point, sometimes a high point, but most of them really do drag. Almost every one outstays it's welcome and even though this bpm is *very me* I want them to be zippier. There's a lethargy in them that I find a bit depressing. I'm sure that's a very unpopular opinion on here, though.

It's quite possible that R Machine feels the same way, actually, as she mentioned on something (was it the chat with Jessie Ware?) that the parrot collab was done now.

“Róisín Machine is the culmination of a rich, decades-long partnership between Murphy and one of her most trusted collaborators Crooked Man aka DJ Parrot.”

while I'm c+p'ing, Something More was written by Amy Douglas:

"I asked her to write me a song about never being full or satisfied, exponential need," Murphy says. "She sent a very basic but brilliant demo very soon after, just her singing and playing a piano. The challenge then is to get the music direction right, the arrangement and the voicing."

Murphy described "Something More" as "a swansong to how we once lived, there's plenty of bravado in the lyrics and the character is a kind of antihero but the indefinable yearning and the feeling of arriving at a point of emptiness is universal right now!"

I'm assuming the Amy Douglas who is half of Peach Melba with Juan Maclean

Never Saw It Coming Amy/Parrot joint was probably my tune of 2019. Amazing that she wrote Something More! She's quite the force of nature.

again, for those that haven't heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_IWcNfJOk

And yes, sic, I know what people write in press releases!

Never Saw It Coming is one of those rare tracks where I/you thought, "oh I haven't heard this track for years"/"oh fuck, this is brand new!" when it came out. I think it was/is a classic straight off the bat. You felt like you knew it as soon as you heard it.

although this is ABSOLUTELY THEE VERSION of Never Saw It Coming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4n52BSVz5c

Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo
Boo-boo Boo-Boo-Rappo Boo-Boo

"inside, there's nothing left
here's a pencil, go and draw your breath"

fkng amazing.

Had never heard that - thanks! (FYI discogs says two remixes by Crooked Man, but the original is written with and produced by a NYC guy)

I guess the press release doesn't say that anyone else didn't produce anything on Machine, but it does seem to intentionally imply that it's all Parrot.

here's the audio for the full-length Something More btw

she previously said before the album was announced that it was all produced by him?

Had never heard that - thanks!

Very happy to have introduced you to it but amazed as well, sic, wtf?!

I'm gen. amazed!

I'm delighted, tbh.

I have played that out in Glasgow and had a room of people singing every word of the track. That probably says a lot about Glasgow and also skews my perception of the general reception of the track.

she previously said before the album was announced that it was all produced by him?

The quote in Josh's revive a month ago still only implies it, now I look again. It's a pretty safe bet though!

We can treat that Amy Douglas jam as a sister song to the Roisin album

totally. best sister.

sic, also worth checking out "Walls (Subsidence version)" by crooked man w/ Amy Douglas. I won't embed it, I don't want to turn this into an Amy Douglas thread.

https://crooked-man.bandcamp.com/track/walls-subsidence-version

it's all Parrot

Damn, all this Amy Douglas stuff on Spotify is HOT!!!

Love “Never Saw It Coming”, but prefer the Crooked Man Remix to the Dub.

Amy on writing for Roisin, last October:

I’m starting to write songs for Róisín Murphy. That’s another biggie. I have a very deep and meaningful relationship with Ms. Murphy. Whenever I hear myself say that, I get a lump in my throat because I can’t even really believe that I’m saying it. She and I are linked, and that’s forever, and yeah, so I’m starting to write songs for her upcoming ventures, some of which will be duets, some of which will be solo stuff. We’re not even sure what it is.

Basically, my task was to go home and fuckin’ write songs… mother fucker. If she had told me to get on all fours and bark like a dog for 37 hours, I probably would have been grateful to do so.

Turns out they met when Douglas was in London to record for a duo project she has coming up with Joe Goddard. Roisin invited her to a seminar Weatherall was holding - Amy credits Weatherall with breaking Never Saw It Coming - and they went out on the lash afterward.

I've always known it's pronounced Ro-sheen but that doesn't stop my stupid brain from reading it as Roy-sin every single time xps

― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:17 PM (three days ago)

I think the point is it's actually rosh-in

― or something, Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:20 PM (three days ago)

Nah, the fada over the 'ó' and 'í' generally indicates a long vowel, so it is indeed Row-Sheen. Up north, we pronounce it Rosh-sheen, but that wouldn't be the case in Leinster (where Ms. Murphy is from).