how serious are you about the idea that lebron james has juiced or is juicing?

roids: injury recovery, strength training
speed: game time focus/energy
blood doping: endurance

all sorts of stuff that wld be beneficial for basketball

obviously they aren't the only kind of PEDs, but I feel like anabolic steroids wouldn't be that common bc aren't the muscle/strength enhancements they facilitate not particularly conducive to speed and agility (especially over time, with increased use)? and those are two of the most essential attributes for any baller

― slothroprhymes, Monday, February 16, 2015 10:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my understanding is the downside to roids is decreased endurance but that they are great for the fast burst motions that produce speed and agility (see ben johnson), im sure any clever player or trainer cld figure out how to work them into the mix optimally

not to mention, especially with today's medical technologies/advances - and whole clinics brazenly pushing forward with it - they're got to be super expensive rarified stuff that the FDA and major sports orgs aren't aware of and don't want to be aware of

and how far is it from "nutrition" these days...

agree tho that injury recovery is the biggest red flag all sorts of guys (kobe) coming back in super human time recently

yeah thats why the bio passport is the gold standard for testing these days cause u cant rely on knowing every drug someone will just make a new one xp

I think Billy Simmons mentioned something about this, if not now it at least was rampant in the NBA, back when players didn't know when they'd be drug tested but did know how many times they would be so it was essentially open season after like the 4th test

re: the injury recovery time thing, was anyone a bit suspicious of the serge ibaka thing in the 13-14 WC finals? he's out the first two games and not expected to return for the series, they get hosed games 1 and 2, then he suddenly returns for 2 games & it is highly beneficial until reality sets in (namely that their coach is scott brooks and they are playing the fucking unstoppable 2013-14 spurs)

er, he returned for the whole series but it only really mattered in games 3 and 4, is what I meant

#2 because I WANT TO BELIEEEEVE.

i reckon players get on hgh in high school and college when its important to stand out from their classmates. and then might cycle in the offseason or while coming back from injuries. i doubt theres much ped use during the season, that would be very risky both with getting caught and any side effects.

i guess blood doping could be a thing tho

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juiced

the possibility doesn't seem farfetched or crazy, but you'd think that there'd have been more rumors floating around. especially with how competitive the league is. sometimes getting an edge means sniping at the enemy from cover.

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I want to change my vote from 2 to 5.

29 votes! always so weird to me that ilh has all these lurkers.

Or socks!

"lebron is the juiceman" slays me everytime kudos

i have told people irl about the lebron ped possibility in recent days just to get around to saying "lebron is the juiceman" aloud

lmao

29 votes! always so weird to me that ilh has all these lurkers.

― Clay, Friday, February 27, 2015 7:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like its prob just ppl using sna clicking on polls cause they like to vote in things i do this btw

important qn: is the 'man' in 'juiceman' pronounced like 'horseman'? or like 'pac man'?

was thinking the latter tho am intrigued by the former

eh, when you say it like that it sounds pluralized. best to stick with juice MAN

regular HGH testing starting next year, league & player's union both agreed on it

strangely skinnier players in '16

they were the juicemen

Wade and Westbrook are more suspicious because they were late bloomers, but on the other hand they haven't excused themselves from their teams mid season to go to one of the PED hot spots.

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