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if that is supposed to be the cardiacs at their most uncompromising then it really isn't, nevermind that the stuff on youtube is melodically akin to the more outré end of britpop

it's not all that far away from all sorts of music which is popular in this country

TheNcc1701xyz
1 month ago

BBC 6Music brought me here. Just flicked the radio on and this played. wow. Can't believe i've never heard this before. Now it's set up home in my head and i'm not going to ask it to leave.

Dystopia66
5 months ago

Bloody hell. Why didn't somebody tell me about this earlier! Can't believe this band were unknown to me until a few minutes ago.

= lots of comments like these and ref to normcore artistes like suede and radiohead who will have been influenced by them; this is music that has been rendered marginal rather than being necessarily marginal

They're only the band Stackridge could have been. They came around at the wrong time, I reckon.

ref to normcore artistes like suede and radiohead who will have been influenced by them

They have?

they sit uneasily with any comparison. i'd go as far as to say they've created their own fairly distinct lineage of music that has eventually given rise to stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX2rUUcs0G4

of course, one can draw superficial comparisons in the service of aggregation

that video was supposed to be cardiacs at their most self-consciously unusual, yet if you want something a little more...avant-classical, try the closing 4 minutes of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4j6q1Svf30

SOME of their music is redolent of a sort of supercharged britpop in some superficial sense, but even when it is, it is something utterly other:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a820Xo4XdB8

they're ACCESSIBLE to normcore discourse precisely because they are so melodic - in rhythmic/lyrical regards they are a far more forbidding proposition, and even then their melodies are highly distinctive in construction

i agree that they're not necessarily marginal, because i think they're amazing, and that their songs work beautifully - they've been rendered marginal by certain bloody-minded aesthetic choices which i would defend

my challenge to you nakhers is to find bands lying similarly on the periphery of the norm-rock discourse who have been similarly marginalised, with an equally fervent cult following

the choices that frame them as weird seem more peripheral than integral to the idiom, it's not like they are this heat

the framing is oppositional but in another life they might have become quite popular had they been less dorky

they serve as an interesting case for the types of eccentricity that are tolerable to the british middle classs (mostly those involving whimsicality or anachronism)

that north sea radio orchestra track is surprisingly good

Also sounds like the whims of certain tastemakers played a part

LJ's challenge makes me think of something like the tiger lillies, whose music isn't "difficult" or unusual at all but who still provoke a "fuck is this shit" reaction from ppl

Lay off the face paint would appear to be the message

tiger lillies?! dear god

anyway,

they serve as an interesting case for the types of eccentricity that are tolerable to the british middle classs (mostly those involving whimsicality or anachronism)

ARE they tolerable to the british middle class? the 6 music listeners who have flocked to their side strike me as a minority. traditionally the reactions veer from intrigued to horrified with a smattering of obsessive adoration - don't think that's changed, or that the whole cardiacs package is now 'tolerable' to the middle class normcore hivemind. i reckon they have as much working class support as anything else - they're certainly from that milieu - and their whimsicality/anachronism is smeared and smudged under tonnes of, yeah, facepaint, fabricated incest rumours, a sense of earthy menace and an oversaturated production style that's just too much for most people

their role within the british pastoral is important, i'd say, but if bagpuss can get voted the UK's favourite TV show, how can cardiacs not achieve similar? - it is the confrontational weirdness, the unplaceability of it, even if the heart is in a similar place

N.B. the acceptable middle-class eccentricity of UK music from the last 50 years = david bowie

http://thumbs.worthpoint.com/E8d_hkDpfi6lLOyxo95PHG2mDA0=/400x0/images/images1/360/0912/28/360_1ff10ab5ad83cc5e7c9dedab870f9486.jpg

that was the argument lj, that they are the wrong sort of eccentrics

though if they are abstracted from their rep and the overt dorkiness and oppositional framing, then just the music on its own terms is perfectly comprehensible or at least not insuperably weird to a bbc6 sort of audience

traditionally the reactions veer from intrigued to horrified with a smattering of obsessive adoration - don't think that's changed, or that the whole dulwich hamlet package is now 'tolerable' to the middle class normcore hivemind. i reckon they have as much working class support as anything else - they're certainly from that milieu - and their whimsicality/anachronism is smeared and smudged under tonnes of, yeah, communist sloganeering, fabricated transfer rumours, a sense of 'hardcore supporter' menace and an oversaturated fandom style that's just too much for most people.

something tells me dulwich hamlet is not a band that produces albums

Non League Day Saturday 6th September 2014

i am listening to a song by this band, and it is v. reminiscent of Queen, not in a bad way.

LJ -- does your avian have a favorite Cardiacs song(s)?

this is all getting taken out on the leg of a dulwich hamlet supporter next weekend, and it is all your fault, nakhers, all your fault

"probably dog-like sparky. I find it a very relatable song" she affirms, yet she also probably slightly prefers the tangentially-related work of north sea radio orchestra and their parent band shrubbies, which is ok coz they're pretty much just as good :)

btw we are sitting in a pub that used to be a building society and hasn't really changed the decor, it is extraordinary

whenever you use the nickname "nakhers," it makes me think of the homophone that calls to mind avians favored by Benny Hill

though it would really be something if he actually resembled the actress on the left

http://www.runstop.de/hospital06.jpg

nakho it is then

mamadou or diafra tho

http://i.imgur.com/uXXsg8D.jpg

:D they're all so happy!

a certain avian may have just unveiled a micro korg btw - can barely contain myself. just want to stay at home for the next year or two making sounds

hi

hope you're better deems

convalescence innit. HB.

ty, gl

meanwhile I step out and it's the first fucking day of spring

happy birthday to yourself too deems

thanks thanks and obv many happy returns

there will have been a cloud in the sky, although just the one

larva: haberdager/jgo/unfished business/country matters/acoleuthic
pupa: oawia

...

the entomologists gather with their nets

― THE SONIC UNREGULATED ELECTRIC CATFISH (imago), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:37 (1 year ago)

just got offed has got to be the prime era of early lj

http://www.lj.vn

it will be hided

http://www.youtube.com/user/poopdriver

haw

re meades and excoriation

http://www.spectator.co.uk/arts/arts-feature/9395702/le-french-bashing-has-spread-to-france-are-things-really-that-bad-2/

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/mar/19/france-strange-defeat/

The LiveJournal blogger, who spent two months working at the centre until mid-March, said she was paid 45,000 roubles (£520, $790) a month, to run a number of accounts on the site. There was no contract - the only document she signed was a non-disclosure form. She was ordered not to tell her friends about the job, nor to add any of them to the social media accounts she would run under pseudonyms.

“We had to write ‘ordinary posts’, about making cakes or music tracks we liked, but then every now and then throw in a political post about how the Kiev government is fascist, or that sort of thing,” she said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

Blur: Classic Or Dud [Started by Tom in March 2001, last updated 5 minutes ago by carles the jekyll (imago) on I Love Music] 20 new answers

have u ever felt there to be some irreconcilability or incommensurability between your interest in sport and your interest in 'intellectual' life such as poetry, theory, films of a high-minded persuasion, musickes of the progge and epicke varieties etc?

lole

no

sport is aesthetically consistent with my more shall we say formalist cultural regards,

my only problem with sport is the gender imbalance but sports have remedied other exclusions in the past and i have faith they'll continue to do so. plus i just overlook the fact i'm largely watching men rather than women because the sports themselves are so aesthetically pleasing

that is i had surmised

Ah, and there it is!

lol

Jaggery had played Seattle before, though I was still in Hawaii when they were here last. The lead for this group is fronted by a truly dynamic vocalist, Singer Mali . . . and when I say that, it is with all the respect one might imagine… the music they play keeps the “prog” in mind, but is more attuned to that “prog-opera” I mentioned earlier in this piece… though I’m not intimately familiar with all the terms proggers use to describe their music, the lead-off piece sounded (to me) like “wicked chamber dirge” – some of the most impressive and powerful high-range vocal work I’ve heard in years.

would you consider having this band called Jaggery play your wedding?

progge

the harpist is a red-headed avian