Screamadelica: the poll

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"Higher Than The Sun". Combines melodic songsmith qualities with an interesting use of electronics to the best effect.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I was thinking specifically of Come Together - I much preferred the single version of that to the album version - I ended up buying some US import of the Come Together EP to get it.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

time and overexposure has largely spoiled this record for me. loaded would be my first choice to listen to.. it was also the first primals i ever owned (though i heard ivy ivy ivy first)

Bad, Bad Memories of a Good Time (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, and I think the elongated version of the single version was on one of the 12" singles (and nowhere else)

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

My favorite track from this always alternates. These days it's Slip Inside This House.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Higher Than The Sun is their best song ever.

Even last month live when they turned the last third into a blues jam.

IRL Consequences by Godley & Creme (sic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Come Together 4EVA!!!

Although this record is very dated

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

More love from me for the title track. I had it tightly wound in its entirety round one side of the Dixie Narco 7" - I'm amazed the needle didn't carve through the disc every time I played it

In its absence, 'Don't Fight It, Feel It' is the only one I ever listen to, so that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Apart from Movin' on Up, Come Together & Loaded, I don't think this record is dated at all. Still sounds amazing at 3 in the morning. Voted for Shine Like Stars.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

htts (dub symphony)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I could never get into this record- I don't know maybe you had to be there or something. Perhaps Kate's right that a lot of it has aged badly and by the time I heard it in the early 00's it just didn't sound so great- I actually like Vanishing Point better. Also, the original "Slip Inside This House" is far superior. I don't know, maybe I should give it a another listen one of these days.

ColinO, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Damaged ftw

Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

guess which one i'm gonna vote for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

it would be easier if you just told us.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"I Belong to Glesga (Dear Auld Glesga Toon)"

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

but it's obvious which one i'm gonna vote for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Why would it be obvious to anyone but you?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

SOOO OBVIOUS, GOD

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"A Plague of Shitehouse Keechers"?

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, until CM deigns to reveal all, I have a soft spot for "Slip Inside This House", but, I think it has to be "Higher Than The Sun [dub symphony]"

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

DFIFI because no Bobby lol

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ same reason im probabyl going come together

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

here's what you've all been waiting for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

come together, duh

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

you being a huge balearic guy, how could we not have guessed.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

it is also the best song called "come together" (non-controversial opinion imo)

(dude did you not see me repping for Studio lolz)

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

sometimes think this is the best British indie canon album of the 90s because it's got just enough sense of fun on board not just 'miserable splendour' like Loveless, Dummy, Maxinquaye etc.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

2nd-best song called "come together" = blur's come together

never did like spz one much and beatles is str8 overrated

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Annie's is better than all dat (not PS)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus fkn christ there are 872 recorded "come together"s on allmusic

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"Come Together" is the song that made me start hating Primal Scream.

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"Come Together" is a good Beatles song!

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

noooo

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

abbey road is an album that totally only becomes any good at "she's so heavy" and then remains very good for the remainder

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I think we would all agree that.

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

No we wouldn't

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

absolutely fucking not

x-post

Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Something is k-lassic, frank sinatra told me so

Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

And all the Lennon stuff on Side 2 is shit

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

should do a thread of louis' totally random assertions

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised there's never been a "best Come Together" poll.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"Come Together" is the song that made me start hating Primal Scream. - if that is when you started hating them, does that mean you preferred the leather chaps & cowboy hats phase?

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp actually can we not?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It's the "Come Together" Arena Thread!!!

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot MC5's "Come Together"!!!!

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah me too til I read that thread. Still Spiritualized though, with MC5 second.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

if that is when you started hating them, does that mean you preferred the leather chaps & cowboy hats phase?

That means I liked "Loaded" a hell of a lot and was blindsided by how much I despised "Come Together". (I refused to listen to them for a long time after hearing "CT", which is why I didn't discover how great "Slip Inside This House" was until years after the fact.)

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure the Bobster didn't forget the MC5 version...

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

wot no Hixxy ;_;

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"Slip Inside This House" is 2nd-choice for me

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"Problem is, any time that I start to read any words that come out of Bobby Gillespie's mouth, I start to love that album a little less. Which is a real shame, so I try to avoid the interviews."

Typically a good idea for any musician one likes...

skip, Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/screamadelica452.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 27 November 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i like primary colours

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Saturday, 27 November 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Round Boxes, whoo!

Mark G, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

From the DVD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_XAFqvkpw

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 4 June 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

I've fallen in love with 'higher than the sun' since the reissue. Bobby's such a weak singer but somehow transcends this on many points throughout screamadelica. Love the melismatic delivery of the line 'what I've got in my head you can't buy'. Also love the 7" version of come together for similar reasons.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link

Funny how people upthread are saying this sounds dated - they're not wrong, but this is the first sign of a full scale stylistic revival

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

The Screamadelica EP (with the eponymous track) is as good as anything they ever did, and still sounds great.

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Whoops, Dixie Narco EP I mean. Track is called "Screamadelica"

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Classic Albums - Screamadelica

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

perfect timing Scik as i'm about to see them in a few days here in Los Angeles.

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 September 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

RIP Denise Johnson

https://louderthanwar.com/denice-johnson-much-loved-manchester-and-primal-scream-singer-rip/

Oor Neechy, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

RIP Denise. This is great.

visiting, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Really cool interview, thanks Visiting

Sad about this, she was so great with Primal Scream back in the day

Was just thinking about her solo single the other day. I bought it as a cassingle!

umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

listening again thanks to lorde and "higher than the sun" is really one of the coolest psych-rock tracks of all time, wish they'd done a whole album with the orb

ufo, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:48 (two years ago) link

Yep, the best thing here.

Tim F, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:50 (two years ago) link

Hell yes, altho I’m partial to Shine Like Stars for similar reasons

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:35 (two years ago) link

there are some cool sounds here but it doesn't hang together really does it? maybe you had to be there (like with the stone roses album)

there is also something a bit off that I can't really articulate about the way so many white british bands used gospel in this era

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

it's also hard for me to hear this band without thinking "you wankers" - maybe I'd like it more if there was a different name on the cover

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

Funnily enough, their name isn't on the cover.

Mark G, Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

otm re higher than the sun, don’t really f w the rest of this album

brimstead, Sunday, 13 June 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

i had the vhs version of this (and only the vhs) and the video for Some Like Stars was gaby agis dancing which gave it a little something extra

koogs, Sunday, 13 June 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

ok you know what i mean xps

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

wtf this album is great fools

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

it seems like the kind of album that would soundtrack a lot of formative experiences so i can sort of imagine why it so special to many people. i don't like it much but i'd probably be into it if i'd heard it at the right time & place (i feel the same way about neutral milk hotel)

unfortunately the first primal scream song i heard was country girl and i was just like fuck off

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Whenever I would finally make it home from God knows how long pillin' it hard to deepest, darkest drum 'n' bass or transcendental progressive house or mad happy trance, (back in '97/'98) I'd go to bed and put this on and the world was aaaaalright 🙂

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link

You missed everything kid, I feel sorry for you! xp

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link

wtf this album is great fools

I am indeed a great fool.

I was at the Palladium show featured on the rerelease, first of four times I saw them over the years. (All of which were really good, oddly enough, because arguably they shouldn't've worked and yet here we are.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

Never saw this poll, interesting results. My four favorite tracks placed #2-5, definitely prefer them to the better-known tracks. Didn't realize ILM lately felt the same!

Vinnie, Monday, 14 June 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link

"higher than the sun" is so cool that they could have made an entire career out of that sound. and really should have honestly

ufo, Monday, 14 June 2021 04:53 (two years ago) link

Echo Dek scratches the "Primal Scream go dub reggae" itch pretty well, even if it's not quite up to the standard of HTTS

Neil S, Monday, 14 June 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

there are some cool sounds here but it doesn't hang together really does it?

I thought this when it was first released, and still do. IIRC, it was largely cobbled together from various sources to capitalise on the success of "Loaded", rather than being planned as an album.

mahb, Monday, 14 June 2021 11:09 (two years ago) link

That's why I've always preferred Morning Dove White to Screamadelica. Both seriously good albums, but the former feels more cohesive, and gives a glimpse of what the latter could have been if Weatherall was more involved.

henry s, Monday, 14 June 2021 11:48 (two years ago) link


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