Marvel Comics blabbery

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There's another 60s Marvel repeated annoyance!

"Hey, look at Harry Osborn's Fu Manchu moustache" "You like my Fu Manchu moustache Peter?"

Don't forget Mary Jane's outtasight "ginchy" new haircut.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

bring back "ginchy"

mh, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

I know the early Ultimate Spiderman comics had lots of nu-metal t-shirts and modern teenage speak but did any of those comics have stuff like "lol, random"?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

this is just a thought but maybe you would enjoy reading comics from different eras more if you didn't come across as explicitly looking for things in them to complain about

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link

To be fair, Harry's mustache and Mary Jane's new do are probably the biggest '60s Marvel tonsorial mistakes I've seen outside of Doc Ock's perennial bowl cut.

Brodozer Coke Buffet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

Harry's mustache and Mary Jane's new do

don't recall these - pics?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

I read these comics mostly because those eras are my favourite in terms of American comic artists. Now I just tend to look at them instead of reading.

And I find some of the dialogue funny. There's a Spiderman annual with bonus page of Aunt talking hip and groovy and then Stan Lee actually apologizes for it in a caption below.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

Harry's mustache has it's own marvel wiki page:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Harry_Osborn's_Fu_Manchu

soref, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

nice.

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

Extra points to anyone who can get a scan of Aunt May talking hip. I almost certain it's a backup in a Romita drawn annual.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

When I watched the first season of SNL, I was ultimately more fascinated with the shots of the audience than anything else. Talk about a time capsule of godawful hair and style choices. So given the way things were headed by the late '60s, I really look forward to seeing Marvel's depictions of 1975.

Vittles, Morsels, and Assorted Num-Nums (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

Peter Parker's ugly jacket with tassels is the only thing that stuck out to me. I think his sideburns got longer too but it wasn't a bad look.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

God DAMN but the influence on xaime is writ large there

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link

it really is

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Woody Allen Lives

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

Well done Bizarro Gazzara. Funny that even Fu Manchu is there.

I always thought Gilbert was the most Romita inspired one.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 February 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link

was wondering - is this Fu Manchu copyright thing also the reason the character is never referenced by name in the initial League of Extraordinary Gentlemen storyline?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

yeah, it is

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

someone should do an intentional meta thing about the strange numinous menace of the licensed-character-who-cannot-be-named. (someone probably has, probably moore even)

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Should just call him Nu Manchu and get on with it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Marvel/Agents of Atlas sort of did that with Yellow Claw

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

Yellow Claw has been around since the golden age.

Steak Sauce On My Cummerbund (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

call him "Craig"

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

The other Asian claw still gets used but he looks so monstrous that it probably doesn't register as racial caricature to most people.

I've got kind of a soft spot for characters like Fu Manchu, I always thought they were really cool but preferably the ones that don't caricature or portray Asians in general as sinister (like the crap old Karloff version of Fu Manchu).
There's quite a few of these characters in videogames and Hong Kong martial arts films but I can't presume they aren't racist because sometimes they have racial typecasting that isn't obvious to western viewers, so I wouldn't really know when those cruel emperors are supposed to be associated with foreign people. Like I read that sometimes having Japanese or Malaysian villain was like having a German or Transylvanian villain.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

xp I know - in the Agents of Atlas mini they actually try to clean it up by having the guy reclaim it as "dammit it's GOLDEN CLAW you dumb racist Americans"

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Which are the best crossover events worth reading?

Just finished the Infinity Gauntlet one and have all 51 issues of Infinity War lined up next (and then onto Crusade, Abyss, The End and Annihilation).

Any more recent ones worth checking out? Civil War? X-Men?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

The worthiness of a given crossover can often be measured in part by how familiar you are with the characters/situations presented therein. There are several decent X-Men crossovers that may not do much for you if you haven't read a year or so ahead of when the crossover started.

The best crossover from recent years (and one that doesn't require much of a new reader) is Annihilation. The Infinity stuff doesn't really even provide much of a preamble to it. It's pretty easy to just jump right in.

Steak Sauce On My Cummerbund (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

kind of - since it was all on MU anyway, i did find the preceding Marvel: The End and Thanos series that preceded Annihilation to be worthwhile

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

really loved the mutant massacre

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

idk where to put this (there's no Bronze Age Marvel or Superhero Spanking threads) so um yeah:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iN6RbCdaO_s/VPiE1ySuYLI/AAAAAAABIPE/XJCG_YRlnXc/s1600/MarvelTwo-in-One062-11.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

More directly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV54wy_IBVg

RICHARD GROWTH (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Saturday, 28 March 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

So I'm apparently going all-in on Secret Wars and its 25,847 crossover issues. In case you were wondering who'd be dumb enough to do that.

Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

post here.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Make a thread like Aldo's 52 excursion.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

that video is pretty great btw

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

The best thing about DC this week has been the last issues of a lot of books, and stories actually ENDING.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 29 March 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm a few years behind on Marvel stuff so I've put my silver age marathon on pause (up to '71 currently) to catch up on material that seems like it might be germane to Secret Wars. Having only read a little of Hickman's Secret Warriors and Fantastic Four before, my current deep plunge into that material has been overwhelming. I don't know if it's going to ultimately add up to anything or how long it's going to take to get there if it does, but every one of these issues is a massive info dump of new concepts and new characters and new timelines and locations. Pretty much the polar opposite of the decompressed style that was so in vogue just a few years prior. I can see where it might've been kind of a confusing slog to keep up with on a monthly basis, but it's been thrilling to read through a couple years' worth of this over a handful of days. Feel like that dude's home must be plastered floor to ceiling with notes and maps and strings connecting this map to that note. Depending on how adroitly he's been able to play the long game, I have a degree of faith that he'll be able to make Secret Wars Mk 2 an interesting failure at the very least.

what are tbey going to do to keep the laughs coming (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

I'm actually quite excited to read it.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, me too, despite being out of the modern day Marvel loop for a while. It feels more like a proper EVENT than the crossovers they've gotten in the habit of tossing out every few months. It's sparking a bit of the excitement I got from tracking down new Infinity Gauntlet installments back in the day, which is the thing that began my Zombification in earnest.

what are tbey going to do to keep the laughs coming (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to read it just in hopes of it starting out with a recap of what the hell's been happening in the Avengers titles for the last 2 years, because I'm pretty much lost.

WilliamC, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

I initially thought I'd just cover a little bit of the preamble by reading the Time Runs Out stuff but then I made the mistake of reading hints and allegations that Hickman has been planting these seeds for years and I appear to have fallen down a rabbit hole where I've deluded myself into thinking I can read the last half decade of Marvel's output in the next couple of weeks. Because that's my brain for ya.

what are tbey going to do to keep the laughs coming (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Nothing is directly tied to the Council of Reeds that he did back in FF, but there's definitely a line of continuity from those days to now

mh, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

the only prepping i've done is Hickman's New Avengers + Avengers runs and i feel totally prepared. overprepared even.

Mordy, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

The Avengers' insane plottiness makes it seem like Hickman is constituionally incapable of doing character work or jokes, but there's a lot of sweet-natured character stuff in his Fantastic Four. I wonder why he seems to have intentionally subsumed that aspect this time 'round (not that I don't enjoy the insane plottiness). I need an Anhillus on the crapper moment.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 18 April 2015 06:59 (nine years ago) link

Started the Hickman Avengers - it's really nice art but the fight scenes are all completely incoherent. Totes impressed they could sell this to people issue by issue when half are just introducing a new character so far (through 8-9).

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:47 (nine years ago) link


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