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lol:

credits shot of Saul staring balefully out across the North Dakota sunrise from his Cinnabon

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 01:16 (nine years ago) link

whoops didn't c+p the whole thing:

was waiting for post-credits shot of Saul staring balefully out across the North Dakota sunrise from his Cinnabon

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, September 30, 2013 10:59 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link

This is all very enjoyable, though it does feel a bit like The Hobbit to BB's LOTR; everything is broader and sillier, and there's a little too much fan service. It should ideally be a show that someone who's never seen it's predecessor could enjoy perfectly well and I'm not sure it is. I am looking forward to the rest, the ripping off the embezzlers plotline has potential, and the standard of storytelling was obviously very high.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 11:08 (nine years ago) link

Jimmy's foray into the HHM offices (ep. 1) was hilarious, man. His second interaction with the older fella on the ground floor was classic, sort of 'why are we engaging in hand shake' "Right." "yes."

First part of his Network bit in the meeting room, he kinda channeled both Larry David and Daniel Day Lewis.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link

loved and hated the all that jazz homage

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

i really really hope we've seen all the tuco we're going to see

tuco was without a doubt my least favorite character in the BB universe and even if raymond cruz's acting chops were a little better in monday's episode than they were in s1/s2 of BB he still grates on me

hoping the county treasurer character gets fully developed like walt did (without totally mirroring walt)

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

Didja ever get your shit pushed in?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link

loving this. It is v much BB part 2 the sequeling, but in some ways I already like it more just because I love Bob Odenkirk so much

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

i hope the b+w cold open isnt the last we see of nu-saul, even if we have to wait for the s2 premiere or something

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

xp it's so exactly breaking bad as a comedy! Like how many times did we see an abject, desperate Walt trying to wheedle his way out of being killed? But it has a diff feel cause saul's dialogue & performance are so firmly in the comedy register (which is why so many find him jarring in breaking bad). The Saul-Walt parallels in this show are at absurd levels but it seems to be working at a level of its own. The violence is on the farcical bathtub of gore, zombie necktie level and I hope it stays there. I found the desert scene horrific & hilarious but the date scene was even worse/better, I was wincing & laughing so hard (plus blackmail tributes always get props from me)

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link

tbh I think Saul was key to making BBad's tragicomic tonal balance really work. The series didn't fully click for me till he was introduced.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, so many ≠ me, I love Saul & always have. Always funny and his edginess was a great barometer for how real things were getting. Loved his sadsack exit also, which is why I kinda think any more Omaha stuff would be redundant

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

the corpse-fucking case seemed a *bit* much but everything that came after made up for it. lol'd at the gratuitous Network and All That Jazz quotes. the rhythms of the episodes, the way they are set up and structured, is so consistent with BB - the montages, the tense confrontations, the quieter, more elliptical exchanges between two characters.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

paranoid delusion over a tiki drink date set to Esquivel was like "hi gr80 we wrote a tv scene just for you"

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

maybe the cold opens will be a linked flashforward story like they often were in BB?

Brio2, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

prefer that he stay in stasis in the present tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

probably they will - but Gilligan is so into playing with narrative and multiple timelines, plus fucking with/rewarding viewer expectations... I hope that playful fluid storytelling comes into play again (not necessarily overlapping with BB timeline, just in general)

Brio2, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link

I usually hate guessing, but in this case I'll take a stab. This season will be the story of how Jimmy became Saul, and if the show goes over well enough and gets picked up for another season, they'll jump to the present day.

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

only one season of backstory? seems kind of abrupt

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

will be interesting if they get around to writing/introducing any decent female characters (the main weakness of BB imo)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

Without the guarantee of a 2nd season, I think they at least have to get the name change done. I mean, planting the seed for it in S1E2 is indicator enough of that for me.

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

Plus, the show's not called "Better Call Jimmy." But yeah, they could do future seasons of post-Saul/pre-BB story, no problem.

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

is this available for streaming with an amazon prime subscription? or is is the same $3/ep ; $25/season as iTunes?

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link

I expect he's gonna debut the name-change within the next couple eps. As soon as he starts representing drug dealers, his bro's *really* not gonna want him to use the family name

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Without the guarantee of a 2nd season, I think they at least have to get the name change done. I mean, planting the seed for it in S1E2 is indicator enough of that for me.

― you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC),

Second season has already been ordered, hasn't it?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

it has, they committed to it as a two-season project to start

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

oddly, while it always seemed clear what the ending of BB was gonna be (ie Walt dies), here - even though it's all basically a flashback - how they might end it seems way more up in the air

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

xp -- ok, I didn't know that, carry on then

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

i could see one of the skate bros bein all "s'all good, man" after an apology from Saul.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah that pun's gonna have to figure into his name somehow

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

lol I had totally forgotten that Michael McKean had previously shown up on Mr. Show as a law school professor

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 February 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link

i could see one of the skate bros bein all "s'all good, man" after an apology from Saul.

oh my god

gr8080, Thursday, 12 February 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Saul Goodman is the name of a protagonist (a private detective) from the Illuminatus! trilogy of books that came out in the 70's. Would be great if that's where he pulls the name from.

Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Thursday, 12 February 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link

Being a fan of Robert Anton Wilson, Mr. Show and Breaking Bad, if they do this my head will explode.

lol I had totally forgotten that Michael McKean had previously shown up on Mr. Show as a law school professor

Professor Peens!

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:12 (nine years ago) link

the direction is so very good
i kinda thought they were going to have to build a show around odenkirk but whaddayaknow, he actually brings the show up to his level
ryan, i gotta think they'll nod that direction if that's accurate

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 February 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link

A guy at work yesterday told me that he'd heard about this new show on Netflix, Just Called Saul

paolo, Saturday, 14 February 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link

Lol that post BB Saul Goodman disguised himself as pre BB Walter White

Blandford Forum, Sunday, 15 February 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link

is this available for streaming with an amazon prime subscription? or is is the same $3/ep ; $25/season as iTunes?

it's like $2/$16 on amazon

iatee, Sunday, 15 February 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

Is this on tonight or tomorrow in the States?

groovypanda, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

tonight

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 February 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

It's on UK Netflix tomorrow morning

Number None, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

well i enjoyed that last episode

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:34 (nine years ago) link

although i don't know how necessary it was to show saul arguing with mike over parking tickets again, since they had a five minute montage of this last episode.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link

Maybe they just have to give Jonathan Banks something to do to keep him under contract until Mike is properly needed in the story. I'm glad he's not a main character yet. I feel the same way about those scenes, btw.

RICHARD GROWTH (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link

The longer Mike has to endure them the more brutal the smackdown is going to be when it inevitably comes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:13 (nine years ago) link

Nice twist in the episode but the clueless detectives didn't ring true

calstars, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link

you don't think? i don't reckon they had much of a reason to believe Saul. Occam's Razor and all that.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link

<i>it took me ages to stop thinking of him as Gob in Arrested Development</i>

Er, you do know that is a different actor?

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

He was actually in one episode of Arrested Development mind

http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb120477683c6198733676cfd8e06ddc/tumblr_mrdvci5q6P1qcm16uo3_1280.png

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link

Er, you do know that is a different actor?

― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh yeah, obviously, and in retrospect they're not that similar at all, but my initial impression of Saul was that he was kind of a lawyer version of Gob; a slightly arrogant buffoonish character who narrowly gets out of self-inflicted scrapes. But it's clear that Saul has quite a few more braincells knocking about than Gob.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link


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