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With a 35% chance to hit, is it proper play to push every time you have such a draw with an unpaired board, providing you expect at least 2 callers? It seems like you'd see a lot of variance with this approach (65% of the time, you're dropping your stack), but long term, is this a g00t play? What about pushing when you're in the same situation, with a stack that's just a bit less than the size of the pot? If you take it down, you're golden; if you get any callers, you have the odds on your side.

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On a related note...Can a play be correct and make money for both players involved? Ex. I have a flush draw and you have a set. I push; you call. If 35% of the time, I make more than double my bet, it's a winning play for me. But if you make more than double the bet 65% of the time, it's even more of a winner for you. So who's the loser? The pot?
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 6:56am Post subject: Reply with quote
Semi bluff.

The added equity of winning the pot with the all in raise on the flop is what makes this a winning play. I make this play sometimes, but usually only when I have something in addition to my flush draw, such as middle or bottom pair or a gutshot. Having 13 or 14 outs on the flop actually makes you a favourite a lot of the time when you do get called. That makes this play a big money winner.
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 12:45pm Post subject: Reply with quote
people can push all in on me with their flush draws all they want, i'll call with a set everytime.

its a winning move if you can mostly get folds and pick up the pot there.. and if your called you have outs. doyle recommends it in his book, but i dont play at high a enough level for people to respect raises.
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 12:51pm Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not sure about the EV on this one, but it's pretty damn close to dead on 0. It's a situational play really, let's say you had a read which led you to the assumption that your opponent had a big hand and will call any bet on the flop and beat you 65% of the time, do you push? Or let's say your table is a bunch of TPs who will fold fold fold most of the time even in a pot that has been raised preflop. Do you push there?

It's a very very marginal play, I can't tell which one is right

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