ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2014

Yeah it wasn't really a sound so much as some aesthetic I know instantly but can't articulate... Like Slint was a part too & they are way different

just figured out that Toko Yasuda from the Brainiac spinoff band Enon is playing moog & guitar for St. Vincent

it's so great that t&g stuff is on spotify, i am jamming some brainiac rn

when i hear 'indie rock' i think of a lot of that stuff in addition to the pavement gbv matador mid 90s indie rock but i guess they really arent related at all

def strongly overlapping fanbases tho

indie rock and indie in general was a lot of things not an actual 'sound'. You forget that sometimes in todays climate of all things 'indie'.

xp
even if yes there was overlapping audiences at times. It was a far cry from 90s uk britpop or whatever you would label post millennium indie

yeah, that's why it strikes me as weird when people categorize Haim or whoever as being "indie'. It's as useful of a descriptor as "hipster".

iirc the label that was involved also influenced that definition ;)

im interested in the hipster/indie divide i lived in new york so long i didnt know there were still indies left but then i visited portland and it was full of em i was like wow

I said upthread somewhere that indie to me just describes a demographic

indies buy records, hipsters buy cassettes

there's plenty of indies in the bullshit college town i live in now but scant dear hipstros

sad

the greatest trick the devil ever played was teaching indies to be sexy (hipsters)

there's a class element to indie / hipster imo

ur a class element

i am it's true

it def requires less money to be indie than hipster

indie defensive hipster offensive

tru

just tryin out words

I'm very confused. I thought that hipsters could only be defined by what they're not.

no u can tell by how the pants are slim cut

sexy pants

major faction of non hipster indies in 2015 is like ppl who got into indie circa cute woodsy bearded lumbersexual picnic in a meadow animal-themed band names circa mid 00's but couldn't get down with the ensuing trends. my roommates bf is like that, all the music he listens to sounds like arcade fire mixd with kind of triumphant lion king soundtrack epic group vocals on the chorus, they play twee songs to each other on guitars in the living room and bake their own bread. glad i made it out of that aesthetic intact

indies just wear some like brown pants, theyre not sure where even got them

If you guys are going to start dissing wearing brown clothes, I'm gonna be mad.

class is a dumb way to talk about something so hairsplitting but plenty of poor hipsters on the grind, asking u for bumps, asking to get onto the guestlist. "indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income. also more of a white thing.

i have brown cords but i know *exactly* where i got them

hahaha I was waiting for you to reply to that. Quick work emil.y

Non-hipster indies are the worst imo. Like the woman I met who named her dog Wilco.

o god

the non-hipster indies western us version i'm thinking of are over 40, worked in a record store or were in a industrial / neo folk / post punk band in the 90s, love the stooges and nick cave, opposed to hippies and prob. can now just be described as "conservative, eccentric"

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working-class parents, may or may not be kinda racist, etc. xp

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Is anyone else seeing this?

"indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income.

Naw, most of the non-hipster indie types I know are 25-45 well-off post-collegiates. That may be reflective of my own age, iirc you're a bit younger?

I find a lot of people ay they're into "80s indie " or "90s indie" they dont want anyone to think they like "pitchfork or nme music" (depending on whether they are US or UK based.
Pretty sure the whole im into 80s indie was around in 1991 though.

Weirdly I see just as many people posting about being into 80s or 90s rap. That really is a thing ive seen watching the reverend arguing with those people on twitter.

hm so much history how time moves along

is emo still a thing with the teenagers?

xp rev- i'm 23. i think we're in agreement though. by "a college thing" i meant something norms get into during college so well off post-collegiates fits that

matt i think we're talking about a different thing. or your example is just getting lil too specif and you're just describing one person you know irl lol. "may or may not be kinda racist" applies to all groups we are talking about evenly. hipsters def less racist than 10 years ago though, reading gawker/jez instead of vice

I'm into 80s and 90s rap, especially 90s rap tbrrwu.

im into music

a few people but indicative of a type i think.

maybe more "tru kvlt alt" then "indie"

90s are involved

alternative rock is back in 2015 baby...oh yahhhhh

xp rev- i'm 23. i think we're in agreement though. by "a college thing" i meant something norms get into during college so well off post-collegiates fits that

OK word. I'm 28 and pretty much disconnected from the college crowd. I work with teenagers and DJ for and party with 21+ crowds on the reg, so I know what those sets like but college taste is p much a mystery to me at this point. Seems like they like middlebrow rappers and MGMT knockoffs a lot afaict.

and they stream legend by bob marley rather than have it onmp3/cd/lp ?