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I didn't like it much at first either. But the song does grow on you. Likewise, the new Funkadelic record is as much of an unfocused hodgepodge as GC and the P-Funk All Stars' How Late Do U Have 2BB4 UR Absent?, but even at 3 discs it's marginally more consistent, and Sly provides some of the most interesting moments. It really is Funkadelic in name only, though.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

the last Clinton album that I enjoyed was Dope Dogs, each album since has been a p random smorgasbord of stuff. which, to be fair, can also be said of a fair amount of his peak period output, just with better players/ideas. Is Sly on more than one track...?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I feel like George is only as good as his collaborators and he didn't get anybody good here. Way too much autotune (especially on Sly) and songs that give you a verse and not much more for about twice or three times as long as they need to be. It gets a little better on the 3rd disc but overall I don't expect to listen to it again.

the first disc on the 'funkadelic' is truly awful.

Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

oh, it's a /new/ funkadelic album? no thanks. :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 30 January 2015 08:06 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

SLY & THE FAMILY STONE—LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST OCTOBER 4th & 5th 1968 4CD BOX!

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/sly-and-the-family-stone-premiere

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

radical

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Just hope it turns up as affordable this side of the Atlantic.
Not sure what the $60 I've heard it is likely to be is going to translate to when it appears. I think that price may be an early Amazon pre-order thing so not sure how accurate that is anyway.

I had a few live sets by them a couple of years ago but not sure if I still have any since they may have been on a crashed harddrive.

There is a Woodstock set in the Anniversary series for the festival isn't there but the band is seriously under represented in official live sets.

There used to be a couple of multi volume dvd sets doing the bootleg rounds from what I remember too. They had some really good stuff on too

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mH7194qDqI

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

that's a great set

I'm not super-excited about this tho tbh, not my favorite live period of theirs

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

I am curious to hear them do St. James Infirmary tho. that's an odd song for them to do.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

mentioned in passing above, but say it again yall: I'm Just Like You: Sly's Stone Flower1969-70
---not perfect but so damn good.
Here's the trailer (too brief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCyHAhJgFA
and LITA link for samples of all tracks and more info
http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1451-i-m-just-like-you-sly-s-stone-flower-1969-70

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link

More backstory: for the Higher! box. Pre-release sampler's gone, but it was afuckingmazing. I gotta get the box, although may have a little overlap with I'm Just Like You and other collections.

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

Damn, missed the link, sorry:
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/18/212367961/first-listen-sly-and-the-family-stone-highlights-from-higher

dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great

Thanks for posting -- I always wondered where this footage was from. It was used in Montgomery Burns' Jazz series on PBS to illustrate why Miles went electric. Wynton Marsalis and George Wein talked about how Miles saw Sly at the Newport Festival in 1969, saw the effect Sly had on the audience, and realized, in Wynton's words, "that he was an old man playing trumpet in a jazz band" and thus decided to go electric.

Except, when Miles played Newport in 1969 he's already recorded In A Silent Way; the band at Newport included Chick Corea and Dave Holland; and his set at Newport included material that would later turn up on Bitches Brew. But back to Sly, I always assumed this footage was from Newport, and wondered if the other Newport sets that year -- Miles, Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, James Brown, Sun Ra -- were filmed.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

ha, i just watched part of that episode last night. yeah, needed some factchecking. miles was definitely influenced by sly, but as is the norm for the burns doc, it is more complex than all that.
don't think i've ever seen footage from newport 69, though that would be great. jazz (and other things) on a summer's day part II.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I mean, the lineup...
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmumkogZn41qh7tzmo1_1280.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

all of those festivals, it seems like it'd be a no-brainer to have a film crew on hand, but obviously that did not always happen.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

Totally. Or sometimes, when there was a film crew, it took decades for the film to get finished/released (Message To Love, Soul Power).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

the amougies film still hasn't seen official release.

rushomancy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

holy shit @ that festival lineup

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Recorded-Live-At-Newport-In-New-York/release/1182883

On a related note I picked this ^^^^ up the other week and it is great and oh my god why has no one released the full length live sets from Stevie and Donny et al

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Like, I learned a while back that all four nights at the Bitter End Curtis Mayfield played for Curtis Live were recorded, and I'm like, I want to hear all of that.

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

wait so miles was second on the bill at newport??

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

not sure if the poster is in order of importance... maybe though. did gary burton have some huge summer of 69 hit?
and yeah, good lord, why haven't they put out a complete curtis live box set, give me a break.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Burton was definitely big-time then, and Miles was still playing clubs in the US (he didn't hit the rock halls until months later), so it's not inconceivable that Burton would headline over Miles.

But I dunno how accurate those running orders are...if I was George Wein, I'd have Zeppelin close, rather than open, the final night.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if "Jeff Beck" means the classic Rod, Dunbar, Ron Wood lineup or something different?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

at least rod was there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNIWaei3RI

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

eesh ^^ this smokes

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Indeed it does!

There used to be a stream of a 1968 Detroit Jeff Beck show (with Mickey Waller and Nicky Hopkins!) on Wolfgang's Vault, but apparently it's gone. Supposedly, the Jeff Beck Group and the Who were the only two touring acts not to be blown off the Grande stage by the MC5.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

Thanks to that amazing Newport Jazz Fest poster for my new display name

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

the bonkers incredible jazz lineup is insane on its own

then you have 69 zeppelin, mothers of invention, jeff beck group, and sly & the family stone...jimminy christmas talk about some live bands

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

AND an afternoon with James Brown

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

lol at schlitz mixed bag. might need to start some kind of noize band w/ that name.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

i know there some audio boots from the festival. i have the savage rose set kicking around somewhere. (yes, of all the bands on that poster the one that most excites me is savage rose.)

rushomancy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Savage Rose were pretty cool. "A Trial In Our Native Town" is one of the secret roots of doom metal; if someone put that out now and people would lose their shit.

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

wtf that tune is nuts! never heard that before

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

holy shit! thanks for the tip.. amazing that's 1968

Josefa, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link

Savage Rose is also def rec to those who like or would like to like spooky folk metal---but they had several stages etc., and since we're talking jazz now, don't forget Babylon their album feat. Ben Webster
(second row of pix, far right)
http://www.soundstation.dk/images/products/large/57/133257-b.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB7zzpNV8y4

dow, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Epic/Legacy is excited to announce the debut release of SLY & THE FAMILY STONE-LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST OCTOBER 4th& 5th 1968, a four-disc set of previously unreleased live shows recorded during the band's rise at New York City's legendary venue. The set is out today, Friday, July 17

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

got the promo -- very fun stuff, though it might've been better served chopped down to two discs of highlights.

tylerw, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

R.I.P. Cynthia Robinson:

Friends, Famliy and Fans through out the world, Cynthia Robinson, Trumpeter and Co- Founder of Sly and The Family Stone has passed.
Our condolences go out to the Robinson Family and her bandmates and all family & friends ! You are in our thoughts and prayers and we are here for you. Please continue to support the Cynthia Robinson Cancer Care Fund due to the rising medical costs ( anything helps ). This site will stay up in her memory. God bless you Cynthia ! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1612767712320749&id=1422867367977452

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

man, i rarely get "gutted" by internet death news, but this makes me so sad. such a big part of my life. where would i be without that group and her in it? they taught me to love so much of what i love.

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Aw man RIP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

:(((( RIP Cynthia

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

:( RIP

All The Squares Go Pwn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Finally listening to Heard Ya Missed Me for the first time on Spotify. On first listen, this is a *far* better record than its reputation. The arrangements are generally excellent, there is no shortage of oddball melodies and the title track is a Latin number. “Mother Is a Hippie” is great and “What Was I Thinkin’” is this record’s “Crossword Puzzle”-esque killer groove.

I have to think this record’s terrible rap has more to do with its title and his own rep in the industry at that point than the music. This is better than High On You.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

I haven't listened to either of these in so long, I should just put em on blind and see how they hold.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

Also I remember paying $26 for a Japanese import cd of Heard Ya Missed me at Tower Records in 1997 because apparently that's what I was willing to do for more Sly at that point.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

Hate the philly soul sorta arrangements on Heard Ya Missed Me. It's his worst record.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link


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