My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest man alive: THE FLASH tv show

man I really don't wanna see Crisis re-done for tv

xp

xxp yeah, that's what i was alluding to when i mentioned the possibility of time-travelling barry becoming the lightning bolt which gave him his powers (from that secret origins story from way back)

I don't think they'll get as far as the Crisis, but Prof Wells will be someone from the future also who knows the importance of the Crisis and has to make sure that history pans out the way it's supposed to or the Crisis won't happen.

I think that means he's the Monitor, but I'd love to think he might be the Psycho-Pirate.

ok would be down with Psycho-Pirate haha that would be p funny

yeah to be clear i don't think the prof IS reverse-flash, by his "whole deal" i just meant barry finding out he's either in cahoots, a future dude or simply not to be trusted.

i can easily see them taking flash-centric aspects of the crisis while avoiding any monitor/earth-2 mumbo jumbo

another funky plot element that i wouldn't sweat if the episode had given me tastier stuff to chew on - is Star labs still a going concern with a staff of three?

that, like, used to have a staff of four (RIP ronnie, heaven needed a guy to drop an acronym to his fiancee and then fire-fart away)

wells is actually Jay Garrick

When they whipped that F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M. acronym out all I could think of was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnS1BncrYM

I'm guessing Vibe and Killer Frost will turn up in S2 and with the Prof Welles reveal also bye-bye S.T.A.R. Labs - although I could see Barry working with A.R.G.U.S. instead maybe?

I'd hope Atom will migrate from Arrow to Flash.

haha i was just about to say i'm hoping against hope this show isn't a "just watch season one" flame-out but a "oh i still liked the show when cisco became vibe in season five" gradual shark-jumper

though dc's tv plan is apparently throw everything against the wall and see what sticks so if there's a long-term game plan it's coming from the showrunners not the studio

wells is actually Jay Garrick

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oh god, flashbacks to the JSA episodes of smallville

they do keep mentioning a mercury labs or mercury corporation, so maybe max mercury will show up at some point

i want this show to go on long enough for the music meister to appear - jesse l martin, grant gustin...got some singers in that cast

http://io9.com/check-out-the-flash-tv-shows-new-trickster-1682545189

GRODD! <3

Ok obv we're not supposed to think about it but the human rights violations going on in the star labs basement got a little distracting when they threw the petty criminal in a four foot long box. A giant lab run by three people now includes super-Guantanamo.

The relative juiciness of the pied piper was really comforting after the hokiness of cold and heat though.

GRODD.

Wouldn't put money on it but my new theory on wells is that he's darkest timeline Barry Allen, who stayed in the past after failing to save his mom and decided to warp his own life to change the future.

yeah, the fact that the cops seem happy to look the other way while a scientist who nearly blew up the city imprisons people without trial is a little troubling, as is the fact that clean-cut gee-whiz barry allen is apparently chill about it.

how do the inmates go to the bathroom? who's feeding them? do they get access to books or anything? is there an exercise yard? it would have been a lot better to toss out a 'dr wells improvised some super-cells at iron heights!' and then we don't have the awkward impression that our hero is basically judge dredd.

Also wtf at peekaboo's boyfriend "getting away" on foot while flash kicked out the lights, how far down that tunnel could he have gotten from THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE?

"The guy who got me in this mess has abandoned me!"

"Well you should have thought about that before you hit me with that stick! Now get in that box!"

people are forever landing hits on the flash or getting away clean when he's perfectly capable of punching them into a fine paste before they even realise he's in the same room. really, all crimes in central city should be stopped seconds after they start.

Pics of Mark Hamill in Trickster gear on the set: http://morningspoilers.io9.com/the-flash-bts-mark-hamill-photos-1684078715

man between this and grodd I am a little worried about the show peaking early

like where do you go after talking gorillas and luke skywalker in those duds

i feel like there are three possibilities for the flash in tv/film

1. dc recognizes the show's potential value and incorporates gustin into their cinematic justice league plans
2. the show gets knocked down after season 2 to make room for ezra miller in everyone's hearts
3. the earth-berlanti Flash and earth-snyder Flash co-exist, maybe even meet each other in a CRISIS

so i wonder if the tv show is unabashedly burning through its obvious storylines, which will either get enough attention to force scenario 1 (at which point the quality of later seasons won't really matter) or allow them to have as much fun as possible before scenario 2 unfolds

so i guess they went with the obvious reveal

or did they

otoh

GRODD

i'm pleasantly surprised how good the effects on grodd and firestorm look (and the effects as a whole tbh)

my wife asked how general eiling was hearing the voice in his head at the end of this episode and i explained grodd is a telepathic hyper-intelligent gorilla - a phrase i relished having the opportunity to say - and she was like 'okay that might be too much even for this show'

I'm disappointed he Golden Glider was teased and hasn't turned up yet.

I had a similar conversation to the one above when I told 'er indoors about how her skates worked,

An upcoming episode has the word rogue in the title, prob seeing the glider then

well, that was an awesome episode. time travel! death! running really fast around a tsunami! also barry kissing his sister :(

The end made me happy, as the last The Walking Dead was fresh in my memory. Down for a while on establishing and killing off enjoyable characters. One of The Flash's appeals is - mom aside - the sunnier nature of the show, and his joy in being a superhero. This episode boded a grimmer series shift, so Barry's accidental discovery that he can time travel was welcome.

For Flash comics folk, thought Reverse Flash's motivation was making Barry the best superhero he can be through trial. The show's RF seems to have a different motivation. Are they consistent?

yeah, i'm fairly sure barry's newfound time-travel ability will make cisco's death a temporary state of affairs.

Seems weird that they were off for a month and then came back with a cliff-hanger heavy episode that work have worked great before a mid-season break

okay, wait just a second here: barry goes back in time, sees himself, and then past-barry just... disappears? shouldn't future-barry have been running into his past self throughout the episode? did i miss something or was just just not addressed?

yeah, that seemed dumb

probably some "two of you can't exist in the same time" paradox that Cisco will figure out at some point

Have they hit the future point that backwards in time Barry came from yet? They aren't going to spend the next episode sorting out the results of yesterday Barry swapping over to today or however you want to put it. Like each of 2 Barrys swapping their temporal/chronologiacl location?
THink I may have been busy on the other side of the room when the episode ended so not sure if the did get past that point where he swapped yet. & the big action point has been diverted as has the reveal with Cisco hasn't it?

Damn might need to go and watch the end of the episode again.

haven't watched the latest ep yet myself but if they really just had future barry replace real-time barry rather than co-exist, that is bad. bad, bad, bad. not necessarily a deal breaker, but between that and the show's indifference to explaining the superguantanamo in the basement, it certainly qualifies as a kind of "fool me once, shame on you" where the creators are revealing their willingness to play extremely dumb without a shred of exposition to defend it.

so next time they have a glaring plothole without even attempting to acknowledge or cloak it, we'll say "well tbf his first trip back in time made no sense either"

this episode also featured a robber whose weapon is a gun apparently capable of literally turning things into gold so i guess efforts to make sense might not be at the top of the list of the showrunners' priorities

i'm also aware that we're nitpicking details on a show where we'll happily accept a man is capable of moving at lightspeed tho so y'know we're kinda our own worst enemies here

Have they hit the future point that backwards in time Barry came from yet?

Hard to tell, as none of the stuff in that future (tidal wave, sister-kiss, Wells killing Cisco) is happening anymore.

yeah really not excited to see the cornball rogues again either. trying to resist the urge to throw a whole "this is why i don't like to watch hour-long shows until they've proven themselves over multiple seasons!" tantrum but at least heroes made it through an entire season before capsizing. i don't really think this is nitpicking - we can still be annoyed to learn a show with a magical reality is so slapdash in maintaining an internal logic.

tbf, the rogues are pretty entertaining in this episode and barry has a nice scene with cap'n cold (which, that said, does involve barry invoking the threat of incarceration superguantanamo)

good to hear, i was hoping they'd figure out how to have those guys work - the episode where heat wave joined up just felt atypically cartoonish without explanation. and that's really the issue. if you're going to have a world where most superhumans are relatively emotionally grounded, and suddenly one guy is all "OOOH BABY I LIKE COLD THINGS," you need to call that out - at least have cisco say "wtf is this dude's trip" when he's macho man randy savaging on the TV. and if the flash can go back to his mom's death without taking over the body of wee barry allen, there should also be two barrys when he goes back a day. just because we buy that in this world radiation gives you magical powers depending on who you stand next to doesn't give the creators carte blanche to ignore the laws of that reality.

well, we don't know the laws yet. Maybe baby Barry will appear in the present and the rest of the series will be about him learning to crawl fast enough to get back inot the womb