Richard Dawson (raucous experimental UK folk racket w/ intense picaresque realness vox)

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Hogwhistle?

ewar woowar (or something), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

OMG, it has been a long time since I listened to anything by Chenaux or Deep Dark United! Should dig some up. Has Dawson ever mentioned being aware of them?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

For the record, the only Orcutt I've heard is 'A History Of Every One'. I will check out Harry Pussy. But yeah, IIRC that was an album of deconstructed standards and reminded me very much of Derek Bailey. I mean, I love and respect Bailey. He's a revolutionary and his ideas are incredible, but I listen to Dawson for very different reasons.

quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

Respec' to Del

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

A gentleman and a scholar.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

Not much of a singer though

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

Nobody's perfect.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Place naming has always incited ire in my heart I guess since I heard some Canucks try and do it "she blew like a Chinook down Yonge Street" or something

It's okay when Stomping Tom does it though, right?

everything, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

we used to live there on vine st

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

feel like street names should be exempt bc there are so many repeats

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

Stompin' Tom does it just fine
Americans can get away with it usually but if you hear "Dayton, Ohio 1903" and get what I mean then good

fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

I choose to take "Dayton, Ohio 1903" as a reference to first powered flight so that I can laugh at the narrator tbh

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link

think I got that interpretation from a comment on songmeanings.com, though.

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link

actually, I laugh with Randy at the person that asked Randy to write that type of song, i.e. "Sing a song of long ago"

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link

listen not to belabor this orcutt stuff but listen to "judas iscariot" off the dawson album and not think of orcutt is pretty ridiculous imo

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link

also i really do like this album good job richard dawson ilx poll season makes me combative for no good reason i'm glad this album exists and ppl are digging it

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

actually, I laugh with Randy at the person that asked Randy to write that type of song, i.e. "Sing a song of long ago"

Yes we're on the same page

fgti, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link

"Robert Wyatt doing George Benson" is a wonderful observation.

charlie h, Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah the first thing my wife compared "The Vile Stuff" to was Wyatt

parakeetal pancreasface (sleeve), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link

An over-reliance on locations and names in lyrics is not to my taste. But: Dawson does it so much and so arrogantly I feel he's doing it deliberately to mock American songwriters who have interstates and national parks they'll namedrop without thinking about it. I mean, I think he's "taking the piss"

I think more specifically, the apocalyptic content of The Vile Stuff, wouldn't be as apparent if he didn't name all of the apostles [Thadeus, James and James Solicitors = James Son Of James, Miss Bartholemew…] so whether he's mocking or not, the list of names is kind of what the song's all about and it wouldn't work without them.

Doran, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link

I dig this and I love the place-naming. His lyrics remind me of Nigel Blackwell although straining for a darkly surreal and wild poetic quality rather than Blackwell's comedy of the mundane.

tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:50 (nine years ago) link

amazing detail about the apostles - I totally missed that

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:52 (nine years ago) link

well i'll be...

rem remrum (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link

^

pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link

Listening to this record with a bit of a wobble on this morning, s'got me all over the place, am a mess

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 February 2015 11:59 (nine years ago) link

:)

think this might be my favourite music of the last few years. Nigel Blackwell gone art-folk makes sense as a comparison bit there's something more wide-eyed and Romantic about Dawson's outlook (not that Blackwell lacks these qualities entirely). I don't think Dawson would be overly given to snipe at things he disapproves of.

pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Saturday, 7 February 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

I like the press of accumulating, involuntary and unwelcome minutiae vs. and I don't care about these things
Why do they remain so clear while the faces of my loved ones disappear?
That's life, kid, more and more: the memories you have vs. the ones you *should* have, even want to have. But there can be a liberation or release, relief, in submitting to that, in art, at least.

dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

Although he doesn't sound relieved yet. Letting it spew, though.

dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

The delivery and placement of that line is so great

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Olllld karate trophies

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

just listening to The Ice-Breaker Baikal on the way home, magnificent

woof, Saturday, 7 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link

The theme of the apostles - and other religious matters - came up in an interview I carried out with Richard Dawson last week if anyone's interested.

Doran, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link

god's work, doran

Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link

He knocked on the door and my brother answered. I was frightened so I hid behind the door. I peeped around and saw that he had come in a big old dragster car (we actually had a little dragster racing board game at the time). It was parked at the end of the drive and the engine was still growling. I remember I was really scared. The Easter Bunny understood this and leaned around the door to look squarely at me. He was very serious and not like a cartoon bunny. He was a very realistic looking rabbit, but human sized and wearing quite simple clothes. He looked at me and was very solemn. Then he slowly nodded and handed me a chocolate egg. I cannot stress how melancholy an air this giant rabbit had about him. Then he got back in his dragster and roared off.

brb going to create a sort of cultish wallchart with dawson, julian cope, cardiacs, oliver postgate, dylan thomas and some others until british pastoralia leaps forth connected as a sort of salvation

dawson on religion is as close to my own position as anyone i've read

he is beyond, a marvel

Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link

great great interview, thanks doran

woof, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

cheers, i've 'pocketed' this for later reading.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

Excellent interview, that.

emil.y, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link

yes, thanks

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

That's great.

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link

Great interview. Fascinating that he works on the lyrics for so long. Apart from maybe Leonard Cohen, I don't think I've heard someone talk about working on a lyric to a single song in that way.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link

Fucking hell, that's an amazing interview.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:56 (nine years ago) link

just broke open a coconut and because of the cautionary tale on this album all I could think of was not to use a screwdriver under any circumstances

ftr I hit it with a big wrench and did not injure myself

hot takes: audit in progress (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

Who's going to the Lexington tonight?

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:43 (nine years ago) link

sold out by the time I found out - but hunting a spare ticket today & strongly tempted to go along and see if can get one there

woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:52 (nine years ago) link

Ruth Flecknell We did go on a ghost hunt at featherstone but the real spirit was definitely in that bottle and the trip to haltwhistle was in my car- a helicopter would have been much more well driven! It was definitely a weird experience for the adults as well as the youngsters we took. The genius is in the way you narrate the event and from the adult perspective looking back I can see how bizarre it was on so many levels for some of the children on the periphery of events. Good luck with your tour, I will catch your next one, the tickets were sold out this time before I woke up to how in vogue you are
Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:05

RICHARD DAWSON Mrs Flecknell - there will always be room for you at a gig, please remember this!
Like · Reply · 10 February at 15:15

Ruth Flecknell I will. Thanks richard. You deserve your success.
Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:16

Three Word Username, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link

the best person. 'Mrs Flecknell'!!!

didn't get a ticket for tonight :( and scarletmist is gone :(:(

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:27 (nine years ago) link

thinking there's no great hardship sitting in a pub for a couple of hours and keeping an ear open for spares & returns.

woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

maybe we might join you tbh

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link

how big is the venue? slightly surprising he has such a following
city boys paying high three figures on the secondary no doubt

nakhchivan, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link

by 'we' i mean me and my fifteen friends, all of whom like to barge in front

the lexington is what i'd call a 'large pub venue'

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link


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