Bob Dylan "Shadows in the Night"

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By the way, how is it Bob Dylan has never named an album "The New Dylan?"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

"you can have it when i'm done with this tony danza interview, son"

― tylerw, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:53 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Has anyone ever done the Elton John joke?

Mark G, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link

hold me closer?

tylerw, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

mm hmm

Mark G, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

not a bad interview, but at his age he sort of ends up relating the same anecdotes and opinions for the 23,000th time

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

"did i ever tell you what fats domino meant to me as a kid?"

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

Here's the full 9,000 word version of the AARP interview:

http://www.aarp.org/entertainment/style-trends/info-2015/bob-dylan-aarp-the-magazine-full-interview.print.html

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 February 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20190-shadows-in-the-night/

Deusner says, in part:

Shadows in the Night may pose some compelling questions for the Bobophiles who scrutinize every line and every word of every Dylan song, but for the more casual, less obsessive listener, it can be a bit of a snooze. The songs are well chosen and certainly revealing, but Dylan and his band play them all pretty much the same, sacrificing any sense of rhythm for stately ambience. Once they strike a mood on opener "I’m a Fool to Want You", they never stray from it. That gives Shadows a distinctive identity in Dylan’s catalog, but it also has a leveling effect. Each song hits the same tempo and strikes the same tone, so that swoon quickly turns somnambulant. As the album progresses, the songs sound more and more emotionally muted, as though this style of American pop songwriting was good only for providing ruminative ambience rather than sophisticated humor, feisty insight, or infectious rhythm. Say what you want about Sinatra, but at least the man could swing.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Sounds like he's never actually listened to those slow bummer Sinatra records.

It's a great record. But I loved the Theme Time Radio Hour shows and the Christmas record. This is squarely in that wheelhouse.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

he's not wrong about the overall uniformity of the arrangements, but like that approach -- really enjoyed this on my first listen.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

but I like that approach, is what i meant

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

It’s an idea seemingly as weird as his phlegmy Christmas album

yea there is really nothing weird about dylan doing this album at all! ez snappin otm, this is totally in line with theme time radio hour, it's all part of the dylan picture

marcos, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link

I don't get the insistence on how Weird This Is. The guy's been covering the songbook in concerts and rehearsals for at least 30 years.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link

If he'd done this immediately after Highway 61, THAT would've been genuinely weird. But what Alfred said: Dylan's never made a secret of loving (and covering) standards.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link

and certainly at least a handful of tracks on every album since love & theft (maybe even time out of mind) have taken this kind of music as inspiration

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

and i know that plenty will still complain about his vocals, but SITN really is a showcase for Dylan as a singer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

oh man the lap steel on this!

Heez, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

yeah, was reminding me of friends of dean martinez!

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

it's 7am and i've been sitting here since 11pm trying to review this, it's great, destroys tempest

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link

In a Mikal Gilmore story from '85, Dylan and the Heartbreakers cover "That Lucky Old Sun."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

*according to

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

yeah they played it at farm aid! i think he may have even done that one back w/ the rolling thunder revue?

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

it's 7am and i've been sitting here since 11pm trying to review this, it's great, destroys tempest

I told Tyler yesterday it's his best record since Love and Theft.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

better than the Xmas record?!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

a little. Better material.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

ha, i'm not sure i'd go as far as best since love & theft just yet, but i do really like it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

there's a whole disk in the Genuine NET covers bootleg box called "Croonin' In The Night", from the late 80s and early 90s

http://www.bobsboots.com/CDs/cd-g41_6.html

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

i like modern times a lot too though

but yeah where has this singing been?

i know he was smoking at least fairly recently, i'm wondering if maybe he gave up cigs and tempest was the time period when he was clearing out and now maybe his lungs are a little better? i dunno, it's kinda striking

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

might be the absence of drums that's kinda letting him open up a bit more?

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I can see the Mediterranean from my front step and yet it's going to snow here tonight and so this is the perfect album right now

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

re: smoking - the main detail my daughter seems to have retained about Dylan is that if you smoke cigarettes for 50 years, you sound like he does on the Xmas record

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

so he's a cautionary tale, basically

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

although she likes 115th Dream, cuz it's just a funny story

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

I don't think there's any Dylan voice I dislike, apart from whatever he was doing on Nashville Skyline (and it's only tough to take on "Country Pie").

I absolutely love Gravelly Bob. Easily my favorite Bob voice/approach after the live 1966 stuff.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link

wow on "That Lucky Old Sun" I hear a little of 1966 live singing, or "Positively 4th Street": "paradise", "wash all our TROUBLES away", and so on

and that is the best Dylan singing era ever imo

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

I absolutely love Gravelly Bob. Easily my favorite Bob voice/approach after the live 1966 stuff.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it may have been an "approach" to a degree, but -- for example -- "Soon After Midnight" off of Tempest isn't far from a song off Shadows in the Night, but contrast how this sounds like he just physically can't sing some of the notes with how assured he is on the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCt9Tfv-Ft4

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah i mean, the amount of shows he does can't be great for wear and tear on the vocal chords. maybe this one was recorded during an extended break?

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Seriously, though, Dylan is 73. Springsteen is 65 and plays shows twice as long with three times as much yelling. Macca is 72 and we're really just starting to hear the cracks, and he goes long and loud, too. Only voice I can think of worse than Dylan's is Leonard Cohen, and he is 80, but he owns his croak a bit better than Bob. Also, Cohen could never really sing to begin with, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link

what's the deal w/ this some enchanted evening cover? we know what it sounds like from one of the greatest bass voices ever so let's now hear it in dylan's scratchy mumble?

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

bob felt like doing it

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

i mean i also love singing some enchanted evening [tho only in the shower] so i understand

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

i mean i'm not being flip it's just asking "what's the deal with [something bob dylan did]" that's p much the answer

anyway i'm digging the album on the whole even though i don't really dig sinatra type stuff that much

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

whether you like it or not, isn't the whole concept of the "standard" based on how a song changes in the hands of different interpreters?

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to a lot of nina simone interpreting the old standards recently (she made some great choices) and i'm really in love with the simple but solid as a brick house lyrics. they're just these perfectly formed things.

Heez, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Mordy a partisan for Il Divo, who knew

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

lol had no idea they covered enchanted

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

wonder if Dylan is referencing this album, which also leads off w/ "I'm A Fool To Want You"...?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/LadyInSatin.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

I wish our copy of AARP mag would show up -- maybe I got one of the 50,000 free copies.

it takes 14 to make a baby (WilliamC), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

Seriously, though, Dylan is 73. Springsteen is 65 and plays shows twice as long with three times as much yelling. Macca is 72 and we're really just starting to hear the cracks, and he goes long and loud, too. Only voice I can think of worse than Dylan's is Leonard Cohen, and he is 80, but he owns his croak a bit better than Bob. Also, Cohen could never really sing to begin with, imo.

This is all wrong, except the bit about Springsteen. Macca's voice may not be technically worse than any of the others but given the range he aims for it's now embarrassingly quavery and weak, as anyone who heard live version of the songs from his last album will be able to tell you. Cohen could never sing in the first place but there's so much more richness and depth to his voice than there used to be, it's such an undeniable presence on his newer records.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

was a RSD thing right? album is out in a couple weeks, i think.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

was just checking out a recent show: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2855

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://exclaim.ca/images/16worst.jpg

^^mentioned in a "worst covers of 2016" listicle... gotta say, it is very uninspired...

niels, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

From wiki entry for "Amour Fou" (Season 3) episode of the Sopranos:

The music played when Ralph returns home to comfort Rosalie is a Bob Dylan cover of a Dean Martin song, "Return To Me". It was recorded for this episode at Dylan's request, as he is an admitted fan of the series [David Chase mentions this in the DVD/Blu-ray audio commentary for this episode].

this is really odd and I never noticed it before. Was this the beginning of his American songbook phase?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

that one is pretty nice -- he was doing a handful of old crooner tunes throughout the neverending tour, though -- http://www.bobsboots.com/CDs/cd-g41_6.html

tylerw, Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

that's interesting!

there is of course also "Blue Moon" on Self Portrait, really it's probably an interest of his that's been there all along - reading Chronicles it's interesting to see how many artists from different genres (even different art forms) Dylan (at least retrospectively) identifies with

niels, Friday, 17 March 2017 07:22 (seven years ago) link


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