defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

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You don't have any arguments, do you. Just ad hominem, not particularly clever ad hominem.

Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link

it's that time where I quote myself for levity

never got around to posting about this:
my friend who has visited brazil a couple times in the last year said that there's a local news roundtable show that greenwald appears on, but he caters his commentary and a lot of it is him strongly implying the united states is very interested in brazil's going-ons and is probably heavily spying on them

― mh, Monday, August 4, 2014 8:58 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude works it for his perceived audience

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 19 January 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

Brazil is the world's 5th largest country in size and population. I think I'm missing the joke.

Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 03:05 (nine years ago) link

I love the way Mordy keeps doubling down on the stupid long after his little gee-ha-ha-had on Greenwald has utterly gone wrong-side-of-history.

plenty of people find GG to be a shitty journalist, an asshole, and a self-promoting sack'o'shit but yeah, let's let history judge

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 19 January 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link

Oh no, the dreaded "plenty of people". They should probably pool their resources. Or maybe they should pee in a pool.

Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link

he'd prob say the same if he lived in Tuvalu xxp

valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 19 January 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link

Undoubtedly I'm a troll for pointing out that you have to go speculative with that claim.

Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 03:18 (nine years ago) link

xp instead of "plenty of people" I should have said "me and my buddies"

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 19 January 2015 03:18 (nine years ago) link

Fair enough.

Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link

mordy, there's plenty to criticize about GG, but that thinkpiece you posted is really dumb. stop posting dumb thinkpieces. :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link

as if there are smart thinkpieces

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 19 January 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

i'll leave you to start your own glenn greenwald thread and stay off mine.

Mordy occupying the thread

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 January 2015 05:49 (nine years ago) link

he'd prob say the same if he lived in Tuvalu xxp

― valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:16 PM (Yesterday)

i'd be more surprised if the US govt weren't spying on brazil than if they were

k3vin k., Monday, 19 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

as if there are smart thinkpieces

― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

once upon a blue moon...

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

http://gawker.com/reporter-fabricated-quotes-invented-sources-at-the-int-1756672849

there's not an intercept thread, figured this was the best place. yikes

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link

It's the editor's fault p.s. i have cancer.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

yikes, apparently the journalist sent out emails impersonating his own boss?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

weirdly, this scenario kind of resonated with me as a teacher. sometimes students will get themselves in a heap of trouble and then blame some unspecified medical condition or family emergency for it, long after the fact.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Why is this in a thread about Glenn Greenwald?

Pentenema Karten, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

there's not an intercept thread, figured this was the best place. yikes

― k3vin k., Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:02 PM (2 hours ago)

i was hoping the shitlords would not take this quietly (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

wow lol

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 February 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

not sure if the author knew I was doing an interpolation of the famous Karl Rove (?) quote

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 February 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link

you, always with the arch theorizing.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

DISEMBODIED EXHIBITIONISM (President Keyes)

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 February 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link

memoir title suggestion

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 February 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't regularly read him or The Intercept and hadn't even realized he was based in Brazil. I thought this was a pretty good and fair-minded piece:

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/24/glenn_greenwald_brazils_democracy_is_under

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

Yep. The article is linked in that Democracy Now story

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

yes, i heard that on the radio yesterday.

G.G. is very smart and i like what he has to say, but i have to admit i can barely stand his iteration of the valley-girl whine/vocal fry. he sounds like cher horowitz with a lisp. :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

this guy is pretty much a trump partisan at this point

Treeship, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Trump's a fascist. Trump is Hitler. Trump is setting up camps. "Nothing is more disgusting" than people who throw things in protest.Glenn Greenwald added,
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Nothing is more unAmerican than protesters who are not peaceful. Disgusting.
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Treeship, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

that was unreadable, but basically his imperial know-it-all-itness is getting fucking tiring. no critique of trump is complete without a stab at the democrats. all concerns about an openly nationalist candidate promising a radical break with tradition must be countered with an accusation of "hypocrisy" and "hysteria." he just sucks. this act is tired.

Treeship, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

i'm not his biggest fan in the world but that's not true

goole, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

he's criticizing democrats for being alarmist in rhetoric *while also* being timid in action.

you say trump is the beginning of a fascist wave sweeping the country? then don't chide scuffles in the streets as "unamerican"

goole, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

sorry treesh, yer bananas

Glenn Greenwald Retweeted
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Donald Trump preaches angry nationalism, while practicing Goldman Sachs capitalism https://interc.pt/2jxKryX by yours truly

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

the Dem leaders' incompetence and inability to critique Trump's gold-plated elitism gave us this day, i'm fine w/ saying fuck them every 5 minutes

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

lol i think he just deleted a tweet. it said something like "C.I.A. didn't forget to give Trump a gift for his inauguration day," and linked to this NYT story: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html

i guess he realized pretty quickly that protecting the sanctity of Trump's inauguration day probably didn't fit the brand

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

oh nm it's still up:
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/822439520780029952

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

more worried about Yehuda Glick and Netanyahu than Russia

xo

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

so scary the US moving the embassy to west jerusalem

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Greenwald's smug tone is totally wrong for this moment. He just shruggingly says "the corrupt deep state is at war with the new fascist president, just like them huh" *rolls eyes* as if that is 1.) normal and 2.) the most plausible answer to the multiple links between Trump and the Kremlin. It's as if those things couldn't possible be connected to Trump's Putinesque desire for a fractured Europe and an end to NATO.

Like, maybe too much is being made of coincidences -- maybe the CIA is framing Trump or something -- but wouldn't that also be a fucking weird thing to be happening?

Treeship, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

it is interesting that the settler colonial state is a scarier prospect to world peace than the country killing more ppl in syria than the entire history of the israeli/arab conflict and who most recently annexed a chunk of another actually existing country

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

I feel like part of what motivated Greenwald is protecting the Wikileaks brand

Treeship, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

so scary the US moving the embassy to west jerusalem

you bet it is, genius, plus a Likud maniac blessing DT in D.C. yesterday as "king of the United States"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

*moves bookmark*

k3vin k., Friday, 20 January 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

yes why is it so scary exactly? why shouldn't the capital be in west jerusalem? bc not even west jerusalem should be a part of israel?

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

shouldn't it be in*

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

Greenwald spent most of the last month of the race between Clinton and Trump disseminating Russian hacks attacking Clinton. He's been extremely defensive ever since.

Frederik B, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

Glick told The Intercept that many in Israel didn’t feel like Obama was willing to consider their point of view. “Can you imagine the president of France saying, ‘Listen I don’t think it’s a good idea that Washington should be your capital. Maybe Orlando!'”

(The residents of Washington, D.C. may be without full voting rights but they are not militarily occupied or denied citizenship like the Palestinians in East Jerusalem.)

“Jerusalem is the capital of Israel whether you like it or you don’t,” he concluded.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/israeli-lawmakers-celebrate-the-new-king-of-the-united-states-with-evangelicals/

http://www.btselem.org/topic/jerusalem

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link


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