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― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
that okc roster would be absolutely insane
― Spottie, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
i agree with jordan on the thunder issue. the thunder have 3 quality bigs in ibaka, adams, and collison (who's having a down season but will probably rebound, he was 2nd in RPM among PFs last year). if they added a true center like lopez, that would almost certainly require durant to play the 3 in crunch time playoff minutes (assuming ibaka is on the floor for those minutes). when they'd actually rather have durant at the 4 with one of the 3 bigs at the 5, with westbrook and jackson and [insert wing like wilson chandler here].
plus lagoon's talk of lopez as an elite player strikes me as specious. for one thing the guy can't stay on the floor, secondly his defensive value afaict is based entirely on sportVU or synergy nerd analysis or whatever, i don't trust that at all. his DRPM this year and last year are pretty average, and even that probably overestimates his value since he gets credit for being tall (really).
long story short the thunder need someone to take minutes at the wing, not a 4th big
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
its not just sportvu other stats too
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
i mean being all actually they need wing help while looking a gift lopez in the mouth is an overly academic approach, if they cld get a deal on lopez take it, he will help them more than for instance than some glorified rando like wilson chandler
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
with phoenix picking it up it will be tougher for OKC to make the finals but i think they'll get in the playoffs and from there they have as good a chance of anyone as coming out of the west IMO
― J0rdan S., Friday, January 16, 2015 1:50 PM (38 minutes ago)
phoenix is irrelevant because both teams can't make the playoffs
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
that i think was his point
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
(who's having a down season but will probably rebound, he was 2nd in RPM among PFs last year)
i see what u did there.
― Baruch Olbermann (Leee), Friday, 16 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
well how can you say the thunder will make the playoffs but also say the suns playing well decreases their chances of making a finals run?
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
(i'm assuming it's very unlikely the suns overtake the spurs or anyone else above them rn)
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
he meant the suns decreases their chance of making a finals run via decreasing their chance of making the playoffs
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
tho i wld argue if they cant catch the suns who they are 3.5 games behind they prob didnt have a v good chance of winning it anyway
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
are we still holding to the "there's no way OKC misses the playoffs" idea? bc while there's still about half the season left they need to win between 30 and 34 of their next 44. starting to think that's a high expectation
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
they're obv not gonna win all 44 (which'd be 62 total as of right now), 34 wins would put them at 52 and that's fine, 30 would put them at 48 and in this conference 48 legit might not be enough
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
got to figure any further westb or durant injury and theyre toast
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
def. but if they're healthy they will start steamrolling pretty soon
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
one wld think
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
well, after tonight's game (which i predict they will lose, albeit closely) they have an east roadtrip coming where they're capable on paper of all of their opposition, only exceptions to that prob being hawks, grizz and maaaaaybe pelicans so theyll most likely climb above 500 after their next dozen or so
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
also everyone is assuming perfect health for the rest of the west teams which likely will not be the case
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
true
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
thunder have less margin for error tho
after that east stretch (ending in early feb) they have no predictably easy or hard stretches, it more or less goes back and forth but the lowest amount they can win and be playoff guaranteed is 32 of their remaining 44...idk man
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
they can def do it but they shd start now
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
but if they dont make it i wld like to remind everyone that i predicted it when westbrook went down, otherwise nevermind
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
i could definitely see them not making the playoffs now that phoenix has straightened itself out, but i still think they'll get there and if they do i like them as much as any west team to make it out
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
no one wants to talk about this but what if the spurs miss the playoffs
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
its possible, but far less likely than OKC missing them
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
def playing w fire over there, everyone assuming they will go on their 2nd half run, need to get kawhi healthy and rolling
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
if kawhi is like out for the whole year, and one of the olds gets injured or just starts to for real show age, AND tony gets injured again meaning theyre realing on the less perfect parts of their bench as much as the good ones...they could miss it. but thats a lot of things that have to happen
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
also hollinger's playoff odds have new orleans with a 53% shot lol
phoenix at 56% and okc at 19%
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
actually interesting, like obvs theyre underestimating okc cause they dont know about injuries but favoring nola over the suns is um id like to know why, schedule stuff id guess
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
yeah must be schedule
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
o would you look at that kawhi in line to play today
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
hollinger's odds have spurs, suns and mavs as extremely safe but i think any of those three teams are at risk of missing the playoffs by a game or something if things don't break right
the spurs are as certain in life as death and taxes that's just how it is, and they're not boring anymore so who can be mad at that
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
i DON'T however think they make it past the WC finals and might even get knocked out before that
Kurt Helin @basketballtalk 22s23 seconds agoMilwaukee Bucks’ Larry Sanders suspended at least 10 games for drug violation http://dlvr.it/87M95P
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
weed is like literally legal what is this garbage
bunch of bullshit
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
damn id be down if i was sanders too. nba always interrogating his blood stream
― pursuit of happiness (art), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Too many games 2nite
Thunder-warriors, Hawks-Raptors, Spurs-Blazers what to do
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 16 January 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
Btw I'm ready to get on the Steph curry MVP bandwagon and I think OKC has a real shot to miss the playoffs
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 16 January 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link
he is the best non-brow player in the league imo, and since that antediluvian-as-fuck argument that MVPs have to be on playoff contenders sadly holds true among voters it could well be him
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 16 January 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link
dubs/thunder t-minus 1 hour
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
this is a great slate tonight
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link
for sure
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
btw larry sanders clearly has serious mental health issues, he's not willie nelson
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link
um he is willie nelson
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link
omg have you guys ever heard nikola vucevic talk, it's unbelievable
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 January 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
he sounds like a nick kroll character