Breaking -- The human race has waived Josh Smith: 2014-15 regular season thread part 2

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and yet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

yea

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

coach gotta go.

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

get karl, why is no one talking about this

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

it needs to happen

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

lol at the cavs tho would still be paying brown n blast until like 2020

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

they probably should've fired him before the season started

Like oops sorry we got bron and love gonna hire a steady hand who is easily respected, u must understand our predicament best of luck

Clay, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

i was at the nets rockets game; they showed no replay of the headbutt so from where i was sitting it looked like howard threw a punch at KG and then Garnett was ejected. wasn't until i got home that it was clear what happened. nets promptly lost control of the game in the five minutes after that scrum and stayed at least six points or so behind for the rest of the way.

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report--the-knicks-could-soon-waive-former-no--1-pick-andrea-bargnani-202737798.html

― k3vin k., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:33 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so who wants to tell them that they don't automatically get to win 9 out of 10 if they do this

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

well barnita hasn't really been playing so i doubt it'll move the needle one way or another

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link

i know, i'm not being serious

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

oh i misread your post lol sorry

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link

phil has done a decent job getting rid of some contracts but i feel like he hasn't gotten enough heat for most of the moves he's made. have they gotten a single asset in any of these moves?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

i mean once you tank, you can't tank more. they lost shumpert and smith, who were at least rotation NBA players, for the opportunity to get even worse, plus a worthless pick

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

most of it started probably with the chandler trade. phil at that point genuinely believed the knicks had a playoff roster; if he had simply been trying to tank like he is now, he might have pushed for a real asset like a good pick or like, brandan wright. not shane larkin

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

Chandler trade really his only mistake so far but it's a big one

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

he can spin calderon off but it prob won't be for that much at this point

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

and the melo contract, tho his hands were kind of tied there

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

calderon has been soo bad and on the downslide

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

he can spin calderon off but it prob won't be for that much at this point

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:20 PM (5 seconds ago)

another second round pick perhaps!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

and the melo contract, tho his hands were kind of tied there

― k3vin k., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it was still the right move, Melo's taking a season off and all but who cares

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

i don't fault phil for thinking they had a playoff roster and if you believe the rumors that chandler and melo essentially couldn't play together anymore then the decision to trade chandler wasn't horrible

the actual trade he made was poor but it won't hamstring them that much

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

i doubt phil had anything to do w/ melo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

he should have tanked from the beginning tho, this is the year for them to do it

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

a ton of cap room+ a stacked top 5 + no pick in 2016

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

well, Denver's pick I guess but

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

oh the raptors have that too

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

from the fucking bargnani trade lol

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

and the melo contract, tho his hands were kind of tied there

― k3vin k., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it was still the right move, Melo's taking a season off and all but who cares

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:24 PM (6 minutes ago)

well it's clearly a disastrous deal in hindsight, whether one thinks it was a good deal at the time or not. it's a 5 year near-max for a player who in all likelihood won't be worth that much in a few years, which since they're rebuilding is when they will supposedly start to contend

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

i guess with the cap going up it might not be THAT bad but it still isn't great. tho again the options were melo or nothing i guess

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

still think they could have at least gotten SOMETHING for shumpert. it's not like he's gonna command a huge paycheck after this season, is he?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

shumpert and melo are sins of the previous regime

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

they should've had a first for shumpert last year but the previous front office turned it down

the knicks were never not offering melo a contract, that's out of phil's hands

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link

right i agree about melo

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link

i guess phil felt that neither JR nor melo would ever be useful players. otherwise if the best you can get for the two of them is a second round pick, why not just roll the dice and hope they re-sign at a reasonable rate?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I think considering they don't have a 2016 pick keeping melo makes sense. Unless they could have swung a sign and trade or something.

What they do in free agency is really interesting, it's a great class.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

it will be interesting if phil picks his spots instead of finding the free agent who is good enough to command max money but bad enough to only command max money from the knicks

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

trade melo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

and while we're at it, ban wade

Aimless, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

Brian Robb ‏@CelticsHub 1m1 minute ago
Celtics are still trying to deal Austin Rivers, so the guess here is Nate Robinson and a draft pick are coming back in 3-team deal.

B-)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

wonder if phil and jeannie compare stories about how much they hate kobe/melo

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link

it will be interesting if phil picks his spots instead of finding the free agent who is good enough to command max money but bad enough to only command max money from the knicks

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:11 PM (35 minutes ago)

(greg monroe)

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link

:-/

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 26s27 seconds ago
Boston is sending Jameer Nelson to Denver for Nate Robinson, source tells Yahoo.

im unclear what the point of this is but

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link

danny ainge is a goddamn dark mage if he can turn austin rivers into a draft pick

Clay, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

Nelson has an option and Robinson doesn't

polyphonic, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

jameer nelson isn't that good and nate rob is awesome, albeit not necessarily for objective basketball reasons

i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link

guess nates gonna get bought out

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link

denver must be getting a pick or something or else there's no reason to do this

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link


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