"The Wire" on HBO

probably somewhere upthread is a post from me where i express appreciation for the scene of Omar and boyfriend #2 in bed watching a Beecher/Keller sex scene from Oz on tv

It's not about whether they depict good vs bad sex so much as that every single one is done in the same terrible jumpcut-to-fast-fucking style.

not every single one!!!

"So let me tell you about this show where the lead character is a ruthless capo of a long-standing North Jersey mafioso family...who has to secretly see a psychiatrist in secret because he suffers from anxiety attacks and he doesn't want his friends to know about it"

*Shakey is startled, spills his mug of coffee* Wow... amazing!!

LOL @omarlittle. That subplot was so weak.

the first half of the sopranos' final season almost made me say "fuck this entire show, fuck you forever david chase." that show has dead zones in it that the wire/mad men/breaking bad really do not, imo

otm

mad men has so many dead zones such that it's so exciting when something interesting actually happens

who in the wire has sex that's not, like, horny screwing or extramarital gray area sex or big power-dynamic stuff other than omar and brandon and (maybe) kima and her lady?

Shakey otm with people feeling like chess pieces at times. And of course, it's by design, what with all the inspiration from greek drama, and the characters comparing themselves to chess pieces in one of the most famous early scenes. There are dozens and dozens of thinly drawn characters in The Wire, because there are dozens and dozens and dozens of characters in The Wire, and most of them are just utterly ordinary. Fat Faced André, Little Kevin, Sharrod, just to name a few from where I'm watching. There's nothing to them. The two first aren't even that likable. But it's still absolutely chilling when André's afraid about the rats in the vacants, or that look Kevin throws at Slim Charles after they put him in the car.

There's nothing special about anybody on The Wire. They're just humans, and most of them are considered worthless in the eyes of society. It's what makes it all so chilling and tragic.

dude, Andre is just Andre, you are confusing him with Fat Faced Rick

who in the wire has sex that's not, like, horny screwing or extramarital gray area sex or big power-dynamic stuff

Daniels iirc

Old Face Andre, is what he's called. Omar just mentioned Fat Faced Rick, got confused. Also, have no idea who Fat Faced Rick is.

(also, the actor playing Andre is named Alfonso Christian Lover, which is an awesome name!)

Fat Faced Rick had an issue w/the liquor board and he is later part of the New Day Coop

Names of not-pictured-in-show characters on The Wire are some of my favorite details in the show. Shorty Boyd, Eggy Mule, etc.

oh yeah rick and andre are pictured, forgot

"Eggy Mule" is an amazing street name.

There's also No Heart Anthony (Omar's brother).

iirc, Eggy Mule caught a nickel off some feds on a pistol. Or was that shorty boyd.

Wait, I think Eggy Mule cleaned his whole act up.

fat faced rick is forever in my memory bc he once said, "you harder to find than my fat wife's cunt" to stringer bell

shorty boyd cleaned his act up i think

shorty boyd is a character from The Corner

Avon: So what you tellin' me we weak ?

Slim: Boss, I reached out to Black Donnie.

Avon: Okay, spit it out, man.
Listen, stop fucking double talkin' me.

Slim: Black Donnie said
he ain't having any of it.

Said Brother Mouzone
put a hex on all of us.

Avon: What 'bout Peacock ?

Slim: Peacock went and hired
out with some Dominicans.

Avon: What about Eggy Mule ?

Slim: Eggy locked up.
Caught a nickel with the feds for a pistol.

Avon: How 'bout Shorty Boyd ?

Slim: Shorty Boyd went and cleaned his whole ack' up.

Avon: ...

Slim: Yeah, I know. Fucked us all up.

Avon: What we got ?

Slim: Soldier you sent at us, Cutty, he gonna work out
but the rest of them dudes,
I dunno.

Avon: A-ight, listen big man, you about to earn your fuckin'
keep around here right now.

You go out, you get Cutty
and get the best of the rest
and put a hurtin' on Marlo.

I want my corners.

― Hurting 2, Friday, 27 June 2008 05:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol Peacock

ugh Brother Mouzone, his whole deal was so eye-rolly

Cutty is the best

xp yeah he might actually be my least favorite character, like if Omar toed the line of comic bookiness, Brother Mouzone stepped way over

xps to sarahell there's a character from the corner named bunchie boyd, fran boyd's sister/fellow addict, played by the woman who'd later play marla daniels

Season 2 is great because so much huge stuff is set in motion (and ultimately hindered) by Maj. Valchek's personal feud with Frank Sobotka.

this is way otm, the shot in e1 of valchek standing in front of the giant window staring up in disbelief+disgust became one of my favorite images in the show when i rewatched it knowing how absurdly consequential this part was

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

NARRATIVE CONTINGENCY

i have still not seen the sopranos, not really but the wire is so much better than mad men come on.

horsehoe otm.

also the wire has like 900x as many hot dudes as mad men and the sopranos put together (i don't really know how many hot dudes there are on those shows except christopher moltisanti and jon hamm but i am p sure this is a conservative estimate.)

...

you have your criteria i have mine

that was a very wire-like way to put it horseshoe

Love em equally as much, yet for such different reasons and appeal. Comparing the Wire and Mad Men seems so useless and trite tbh.

it's actually an angle I never much considered on the show, but actually yeah there are quite a lot of handsome dudes now that I think about it

there was that moment on the show when d'angelo's wife is trying to give stringer some of his old clothes and stringer's like, "naw I'm an XL" and she's like, "i bet you are." i was watching with my wife and i heard her go "mm." put me in my place.

There's nothing special about anybody on The Wire.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:12 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

waht

first of all STRING

second of all the show is for real old school humanistic. that they're human is special (and chilling) enough.

the show really loves those characters (okay, not Marlo.)

the tight, slangy, jargony way everybody talks on the wire is so much fun

The men are better looking than the women on that show.

I've found sentiments such as "You want it to be one way, but it's the other way" and "that's what you get for giving a fuck when it's not your turn to give a fuck" incredibly helpful at work.

The best-looking women are all pretty minor on the show too -- Nick Sobotka's wife, Donnette, McNulty's ex, I guess Teresa D'Agostino is hot in a sexy lizard sort of way.

"that's what you get for giving a fuck when it's not your turn to give a fuck"

this is the truth at the core of all workplaces imo

yeah it's kind of a work training manual in general imo xp

there are way fewer women tbf

for reference:

WIRE BABEZ POLL (dudes edition)

WIRE BABEZ POLL

There's nothing special about anybody on The Wire.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:12 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Straight up trolling, this. Man's gotta have a code Freddie B, you seem to lack one.