ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

me & global's show w/paul metzger is tonight! pretty excited, have practiced to the all-important point of being totally sick of all my songs

Hah, good luck man! Wish I could make that.

another guy from minneapolis, sounds like he's been around, opened for peter lang, kottke apparently had him open a whole tour...phil heywood

real pretty stuff on the kottke end of the spectrum, love the melodies on this

....www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTvw7CkoRs....

global and i had our show with paul metzger last night, super fun night, global had made some nice fliers and hung them up (btw one person i know was there because of that flier just so you know global they were worth it)

but yeah really good crowd, basement lounge of the turf club was really full. i felt like i played a pretty good set, did a couple new ones that went well, global was great...but maaaaan metzger really floored me, the crowd was dead silent just rapt at attention....i capture a bit of it with my phone, not the best quality and i reached my file limit right before it got super great, this is a more mellow part of the set (he played about 45 minutes straight no breaks) - the percussive part he starts at about the 4 minute mark is really fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ0DEKTKo0s

haha ok honestly this embed thing i put those [url] tags in...

metzger is incredible, three improvisations on modified banjo is one of my favorite records in this type of music

Last night he just blew me away I would love to have a good recording of it

he was insane, my favorite was the microtonal shit he was doing in tandem with the bow, coaxing out all kinds of harmonic frequencies up and down the neck. so good. probably the best set i've seen him do

May not be totally appropriate for this thread, but since W Tyler produced it and it's out on PoB, thought I'd mention that the Jake Xerxes Fussell album is really strong. Been listening to that one on repeat. Great guitar playing, natch, but more blues-derived than anything mentioned here lately.

i see he's on paradise of bachelors which that label is pretty much gold in terms of this thread, had not heard of him, thanks

gotta check out metzger -- where should I start?
and yeah digging that xerxes fussell record. feels like a grower.

q: when you guys perform, i gather that you have songs and practice. when you get up there, what does it feel like when you start playing? do you get to a point where you feel you're in a/the zone or are you fully conscious of your movements? other?

global and ums -- you're both relatively new at this iirc, and i am curious about the experience for personal and professional reasons. if you don't want to post for privacy or crap up the thread, pm is a-ok.
any responses (esp from beginners) appreciated. it's for work lol!

i'm generally pretty nervous performing, i guess sometimes i feel like i'm playing better than others, but not really "in the zone" or unselfconscious sadly

i used to feel more in the zone playing bass in a band though, more people onstage with you and the loudness and drums cover up a lot of sins, doing straight acoustic fingerpicking is pretty high on the list of live music where fuckups are totally glaring

but overall i do enjoy it and i feel like the process of practicing and then performing in front of a crowd no matter how small is worth weeks or months of practice at home IMO

gotta check out metzger -- where should I start?

i'd start with three improvisations (2005) and go to deliverance (2007)

also in a way, actually searching youtube for metzger, you can find some decent filming and sound quality concerts from europe and stuff, but he's kind of amazing to watch as well as listen to and i honestly didn't get in to him nearly as much before i saw him live

thanks! interesting variations in the answers i'm getting too!

just posted a new recording. I hope to get serious about recording an album this year and so i bought a new recording set up.

***jimmywine avert your eyes***

this is the bundle I bought from B&H Photo, it's got pretty much everything you need for $259 -- mic, stand, Focusrite USB mic interface, DAW, XLR cable.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=869051&gclid=CjwKEAiAxNilBRD88r2azcqB2zsSJABy2B96YTyYG44sxmgJZ_5nOMYMwwGgMIiMS3WQLxHwvWM2-hoCYOvw_wcB&is=REG&Q=&A=details

****gear talk over*****

but anyway this is a song I've always felt really good about it, it just flowed very easily when I was writing it, almost felt like it wrote itself and it's just a very simple melody that I like. I posted this in the old thread but I listened to that version and was a phone recording and I was playing it way too quickly and rushed feeling. This is slower and the sound quality is better, though I'm still working out the new equipment etc.

anyway as always any feedback welcome esp as this was more a recording test (this is probably my easiest song to play so it's good for doing as a recording test song when i'm figuring out mic placement, how all this software and hardware works, etc)

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/new-setup-test-compressed

Sounding really good UMS, pacing nice and relaxed and recording is crystal clear. This kinda thing works really well for me, keep rolling em out like this and I am fully on board.

yea pacing is wonderful and the sound is great!

yeah, very nice! getting that meditative danny paul grody vibe.

thanks y'all. i'm feeling like i can probably do something that's good enough quality recordingwise w/this new setup.

learning these programs is hard though, just getting my head around Reaper.

to bring it back to real shit & not me me me, this is that Jake Xerxes Furrell track jimmywine posted about upthread (w/william tyler apparently)

tyler has this been on aquarium drunkard's radar? seems up yr alley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8898tHKjeOo

yeah! wasn't actually crazy about that particular song at first, but the album as a whole is growing on me.

Jake Xerxes Fussell is a great post-fahey name

haha no kidding it sounds like a made up american primitive dude name in a christopher guest movie

couple gems from the Drag City soundcloud

Sir Richard Bishop - this is just fucking jaw-dropping IMO, so gorgeous and well played. Funny, for a guy who's art rock/avant garde cred is off the chain, I actually prefer Bishop in his more trad moments, this is some lovely spanish/middle eastern -- actually almost classical in parts - fingerstyle playing. forget how outstanding this guy is sometimes.

http://soundcloud.com/drag-city/sir-richard-bishop-frontier

Alasdair Roberts - been listening to some Jansch and Pentangle lately so this is right up my alley, such a beautiful recording, great fancy pants UK folk

http://soundcloud.com/drag-city/alasdair-roberts-artless-one

I liked it UMS-personally I would like a little more room sound, but that's just personal taste.
The other thing I thought was aren't Snark's the greatest?

xp

fwiw the SRB 10" from 2014 (Road To Siam) was top ten on my ILX ballot, really great, too bad it was a vinyl run of 400.

psyched for the new album w/the new guitar

I liked it UMS-personally I would like a little more room sound, but that's just personal taste.
The other thing I thought was aren't Snark's the greatest?

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cool thanks for the feedback, the "room" is my untreated basement so honestly if it's gonna be spacier sounding it will probably have to come with a little more reverb added

and yes, I feel like a sucker for all those years I didn't buy a Snark and used plug-in tuners

love that SRB tune "frontier"

i also prefer bishop when he's doing classical guitar/acoustic stuff. all those acoustic-heavy albums are my favorite - fingering the devil, improvika, though i very much like WMGVB

That's a great tip on the bundle from B&H, UMS. It's sounding really great - clear and concise. Comforting when notes seem to fit in line perfectly, without excess either.

Really looking forward to the new Rick Bishop, I dig this kind of stuff much more too.

I've been checking out the back catalog of Mike Cooper's stuff and have been slightly floored on how understated his songwriting talent is, not to mention the guitar playing. There was a track called "House Of Knowledge" on Steve Gunn's first big full length, Boerum Palace. And I had always wondered how to trace that kind of tune back to it's previous incarnations. Seems that you could follow some of it's qualities back to Mike Cooper. Mike's second album, Do I Know You?, is in full on youtube. Digging the multi-dubbed slide playing + vocals on "Thinking Back":

youtu.be/N5O6TEcXS3A?t=11m10s

re the Snark: I bought one a few years ago to try it out. The band I was in gave me hell for it at first when I brought it into the studio, saying it looked like a guitar with 'headgear' or a 'hearing aid,' etc, but one by one they started borrowing mine and now they all own Snarks of various colors.

I am glad there is no Snark bias here.

They are cheap and there are few better ways of tuning an acoustic in a loud room.

That said, they break easily (I'm on my third or fourth) and according to a musician friend of mine they aren't quite as accurate as, say, the Korg Pitchblack or even the classic TU-2.

See, you guys got me talking gear after all.

Yeah mike Cooper is kind of unbelievable -- like that long track on trout steel "I've got mine"? Wow!

new pedal steel-y tune (w/ band) from chuck johnson. i like it...
https://soundcloud.com/chuckj-1/everything_at_once

Just chiming in to say that I am a Snark proponent as well, works fine on an electric. Always hated pedal tuners, much happier having a goofy thing on my headstock over another pedal to carry around/plug into.

Xxxp jimmywine that's the spirit! We'll be chatting about vintage compressor modeling plugins before you know it

Ryley Walker live on Madison student radio right now
http://wsum.org/player/

mostly tuning his guitar

my stars...so controversial *fans face*

Ryley walker ‏@Ryley_walker 6m6 minutes ago
Leo kottke "Vaseline machine gun" is the limpest guitar song ever put to tape get real

so challopsy
this new william tyler covers session is very nice if you haven't checked it yet: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2015/01/20/the-lagniappe-sessions-william-tyler-covers-ry-cooder-blaze-foley-more/

blaze foley!

yeah i need to stop following ryley on twitter i like his stuff a lot but he's starting to annoying me with his "ain't i a dickens" routine

just posted a new track, probably the last thing i post in a while because i need to do an album and buckle down, this represents hopefully a little better sound quality i'm getting with my new setup and plugins and stuff, trying to keep things simple

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/blues-for-d-boon-1

(the d. boon thing is just a private joke i had w/myself because i realized i liked the song better when it just went through its changes one time and then quit right away which always reminds me of a lot of how the minutemen used to write songs)

was perusing some the year-end lists on that thread and found something that really knocked me out David Pritchard - Among the Missing

he's definitely on the new age end of the spectrum but i don't think he ever falls into being too corny

lots of amazingly detailed interlocking parts, just waves of pattern, i find this to be amazingly gorgeous...i guess the closest comparisons on this thread might be people like Danny Paul Grody or Alexander Turnquist....apparently some of the pieces are performed by a guitar trio of him and 2 other dudes (see 'em chilling out by a waterfall!)

but yeah man i am super into this right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhN7RHw3quw

this is lush, would be fun to play something like this with other people

that sounded super nice but i never ever want to admit to anyone that i watched that with my own human eyeballs

btw m@tt that is a top-shelf username, can't wait for yr crew to play the cedar

While watching this I couldn't help thinking 'this guy looks so Greek'

http://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/2pbIWTlMvF90LLwWW1DCpx

^nice, some new stuff in there for me, thanks!

Thoughts on DADGAD.. I don't know why but up until a week ago I never thought I'd be interested in messing with DADGAD, I'd always assumed it was better for vocal accompaniment and am honestly not too sure if any noteworthy Jack Rose/etc songs use the tuning. If anyone does happen to know if it's used on a contemporary record somewhere.. hoping to get further into it.

I didn't know I'd get anything out of my recent woodshedding, but there seems to be some ideas in here I will work with further, certainly a really fun tuning to play in on your lap.
https://soundcloud.com/raglore/january-16-2015

I like that
I play dadgad more than anything
Great tuning IMO also plenty of super important players use dadgad on the uk folk side, Davy Graham pioneered it (Anji is in dadgad), Jansch, Renbourne, Page, Wizz Jones, Thompson, etc