the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

rinse podcast = classic

"I make the best grime music. Some man run up in the booth and lose it. Start spittin like dipset, d-block and g-unit"

Classic.

Skeng!

Chef: Hi Benga!
Benga: Hi Chef - let me play you this new tune I did yesterday...
*plays new dubplate*
Chef: That's great - it sounds like an ancient bass ritual filtered through millennia of urban decay.
Benga: So..should I release it?
Chef: Nah mate, it's been rinsed.

xpost. Just bought it. Bigness.

Doctor can't fix you send fi the 'earse.

Is the new Boxcutter disc -- Glyphic -- any good?

have not heard it yet... anyone else feeling pinch's "underwater dancehall"?

Pinch mix here (i think, there is slight confusion as he's also down as doing the non-downloadable show the week before but it does say 'DJ Pinch Mix Oz tour 2007' in the track listing):

http://www.garagepressure.com/podcasts.htm (Friday 9 Nov 2007, Part 1)

Underwater Dancehall on my wants list. am slightly dubious about the vocal cd though. nice to have the choice, i guess.

Hatcha's mix on the 10 Tons Heavy comp is rather good, only Planet Mu stuff but a lot of that's favourites of mine anyway.

Shackleton mix on MAH last night as well (starts about half way in):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/maryannehobbs/

spongebob is boring.

Is the new Boxcutter disc -- Glyphic -- any good?

YES the boxcutter album is really fucking good. If only Baz were a londoner instead of a nth irelander...

...the pinch one is choice too. Weird though cos most of the vocals don't work with the tunes and most of the tunes sound empty without the vocals

don't think anyones nailed the dubstep vocal sound yet. It's not dub poetry , it's not hibbada hibbida drum n a bass, it's not ragga inflected toasting. I thought that 'Various' had on 'Hater' but no one seems to have gone down that trak unless you count the burial/jamie woon thing and now we got britney appropriating the wobble...

...fun times indeed

one you should checkout is 'Space and Time' the 'scuba' compilation. Some of it is pretty hit and miss but it's a good current perspective on where the scene is at now...hotflush/scuba and dub police are more my dubstep yardsticks than hyperdub or dmz

plus it's got my dubstep tune of the year on it...vaccine_wishful thinking

the richie spice vocal/refix worked brilliantly...

the pinch album is properly overated. seems slightly tepid.

Tempa 032 is going to be D1 "I'm loving". Funky house/dubstep crossover business, more of this please. http://www.myspace.com/d1dj (titled "The way you love me rmx" on the myspace player).

YES the boxcutter album is really fucking good. If only Baz were a londoner instead of a nth irelander...
Stop talking shit.

shut the fuck up jim ya troll...

...don't even think for one minute if baz came from sth london and burial from nth ireland that it wouldn't be boxcutter being championed as the incarnate soul of dubstep pushing boundaries while burial would be some wierdo tinkering away on long dead music

I downloaded the new boxcutter off of emusic today. it sounds really great on headphones out in the sunshine.

"rusty breakz" and "foxy" are my favorites so far. Comparing him to other dubstep producers seems a bit wrongheaded, he sounds like four tet with more low end.

> spongebob is boring.

have just heard this (garage pressure, 16th nov, part 1) and have to disagree 8) made me sit up and listen.

I downloaded the new boxcutter off of emusic today. it sounds really great on headphones out in the sunshine.

I downloaded it from eMusic, too, largely as a result of your recommendation, Pollywog. So far, I like it. It sounds more electronic-y (even jazz-y) than dubstep-y to me, if that makes any sense; I guess another way of saying that is that -- unlike, say, Burial -- the Boxcutter disc does sound good "out in the sunshine," which is why I see it somewhat different from a lot of other music in the dubstep genre (on the other hand, I just may not know enough about the genre yet).

...don't even think for one minute if baz came from sth london and burial from nth ireland that it wouldn't be boxcutter being championed as the incarnate soul of dubstep pushing boundaries while burial would be some wierdo tinkering away on long dead music

You're a clown.

Kode 9 is from Glasgow and seems to do pretty well for himself.

I'm sorry if I'm overreacting but really ilm has had more than enough sorry one-trick ponies pushing sectionalist bullshit interests and ideology rather than actually saying anything about music. Ya basta.

boxcutter seems more like milanese, sort of on the periphery of dubstep, but obviously paying attention to it, more obviously on certain tracks than others. not heard the new album but the last one wasnt bad. the last milanese album on planet mu is worth finding though. some really good production on there.

Do you mean this Milanese disc? This line, from the AMG review, caught my attention: Dubstep "is apparently hip-hop with dancehall reggae flavors and tech step dexterity. Or something like that."

so D1 is doing more house? interesting. that 'it will come' track on his myspace isnt too good IMO but the way you love me isnt bad. it samples some old 70s soul song i cant put my finger on. kinda cheesy though - id like to hear more funky house made using dubstep sounds/sensibilities if thats possible rather than dubstep guys just switching full-on to funky.

daniel, i mean 'extend', yeah.

Scary cover image. A song on their MySpace page -- Matt Burden Sex Tape -- is downright frightening!

I'm sorry if I'm overreacting but really ilm has had more than enough sorry one-trick ponies pushing sectionalist bullshit interests and ideology rather than actually saying anything about music. Ya basta.

fine, then say something about the music then...

"ilm has had more than enough sorry one-trick ponies pushing sectionalist bullshit interests and ideology"

not like you of course, right?

^^^^ die you cunts?

Titchy, go start a thread asking people how to live your life instead of shitting this thread up?

Pollywog, go tend to your sheep or whatever?

Wow. The violence that's hinted at in Burial's music is directly on-the-table in Milanese's MySpace songs. Interesting in terms of the variances between artists working in a genre (and maybe a bit off-putting, for me, with respect to Milanese's music, but I'll try again).

I saw Milanese once and it was awful. Clunking, lumbering rhythms and all the mid-rangey distortion your ears need to make you deaf for a week. Not recommended.

yeah i find milanese a bit of a grind to listen to...

...i suggest splitting the difference and listening to vex'd or MRK 1 :)

vex'd's degenerate album is really good. i heard a new 12 though and it was pretty bad. quite generic 'scary dubstep' fare. the type of thing i imagine my good mate jim knocking one off to. or on, while its rotating round the turntable.

I hate angry dubstep.

Erstwhile-nu-metaller-bedwetter-step.

angry dubstep + Erstwhile-nu-metaller-bedwetter-step = spongebob.

I think spongebob is slightly knowing. Well I hope so anyway.

MRK 1 is really underrated, i guess coming from manchester wouldn't help his cause...

...i love angry dubstep, but i love the fluffy scuba type of stuff as well and the techy hotflush type of stuff and the dubby dubpolice stuff

you guys heard 'lonewolf - the tale of the rivers of shaolin' ???

crikey thats some metal type stuff which is rather good too...

I hate angry dubstep.

What are good examples of non-angry dubstep?

Well most of it. There of course being a large distinction between darkness and anger. I can't think of a single Mala beat I would call angry for instance.

Not even Bury da bwoy!

I do like angry dubstep really, especially where a vocal is concerned (skeng!) just can't stand darker than thou distorted po-faced bullshit.

Me too. Having said that, the Milanese -- on first listen -- was a bit much. But I owe it another spin, and a chance to sink in.

Skreamizm 4 whites were out about a week ago. Oskillatah is ridiculous jump up wobbly rubbish but I love it unreservedly. Nemisis(sic) is woeful but the rest is fairly entertaining.

I haven't checked Skream's Rinse 02 mix yet. Geeneus's Rinse 01 was good, spanned the gamut of Rinse styles, dubstep, grime, few bits of funky at the end. Apparently Skream's one is mainly his unreleased dubs.

http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Pangaea/

This release is absolutely crucial.

Deep swung techno influenced stuff, like a combination of Loefah, El - B and Rhythm and Sound at their best.

Very minimal (the adjective not the genre). Hessle Audio is definitely quite an interesting label. The TRG bit with the Ne-yo sample was pretty sweet. Terrible name though.

Hessle audio being the terrible name. My english isn't so good today.

Deep swung techno influenced stuff,

...sounds like our Hell Science Dept stuff

maybe one day people will find our stuff, listen to it with a clear head without being tainted by my bullshit and go...

...fuck me those lads were on it

but i doubt it...heh

Hey Pollywog you should check your PMs on the Breaks forum.