Lukas Moodysson

The feminism's loud and clear. I don't know how Brody thought there was no conflict, just because it was handled lightly. I've read his review again and I can't imagine how anyone could get that angry about this movie. This bit is hilariously tone-deaf and ignorant about the history of punk.

"for that matter, their punkishness isn’t even an attitude, it’s a minor and bloodless style statement, a matter of distinctive but unexceptionable haircuts and garments alone, without piercings or tattoos, without inclinations to violence and without anarchic rejection of convention and order."

i think the movie is incredibly aware of how punk can be both "a bloodless style statement" and more meaningful, and this is indeed one of its themes.

B-but no piercings or tattoos!

i mean the girls exhibit anxiety about exactly that issue!

the movie does kind of mock the way that some punk degenerated into overfamiliar psuedo-political posturing (the way that the boys in that other band sing songs about a soviet leader who'd been dead for several years), but it's also sensitive to the way that the girls' rebellion has real meaning in the context of their lives, helping them to build a strong sense of self-worth and identity. which has a political dimension.

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it's funny that the older brother is into joy division as if the age and consequent intellectual difference between him and his sister is somehow isomorphic to the different between punk and post-punk

otm. Their rebellion is small but it's huge and vital to them and that's where a lot of the comedy comes in as well - that adolescent problem of perspective. And of course the fact that they're born too late for punk's insurrectionary years.

I love this film. One of the best films I saw all year.
What I love best is how much of it is about the process of actually forming a band and finding ways to overcome the things that stop you achieving your vision
it really benefited, imo from being a 'nice' film with little real peril or conflict.

Brody in a nutshell: passionate, unpredictable celebration of films he loved last year let down by boring, posturing dismissal of 10 critics' favourites just to show how different he is. http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/best-movies-2014

the film seemed to end at what would be the mid-point of where other films on a similar subject. that is, it ended on a note of what might seem like a mixed success at best--a kind of anti-triumph rather than a real "success." but i think that was in keeping with the themes of the film. even if i wanted it to go on another 30 minutes!

sorry for bad typos.

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i won't read that; reading brody seems about as useful (and good for my blood pressure) as reading armond white at this point.

i keep thinking that if i ever met brody i'd have to fight the urge to pull on his beard. i wonder if after he sees a movie it's filled with popcorn and spittle.

Woah..

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wow there is a sequel to Together set in 1999, playing at TIFF: https://tiff.net/events/together-99

I haven't kept up with Moodysson, but I loved the original Together

Yeah it was good